citrus

I would like anyones feedback regarding victory motor cars in terms of a place to purchase and afair price for a1986 930 (45000 miles ) good shape. thank you in advance for everyones help in advance

Addicted

Just do a google search and you will see plenty.

what are they asking for it?

citrus

The car is selling for 37k

red9thirty

Yes, there's plenty on the search. But, you may want to make sure it's actually there! I had a chance to stop there earlier this summer. A great selection of 993 c2's,c4's,S's,cabbie's, etc. Not a turbo anywhere.... oddly though, the website showed 2. One was on Ebay????

DDD

I would be really suspicious about that place.

They buy cars at auctions and then sell them for profit.

You really don't need to buy a 930 from them just because they have one.

You can get 930's through this board or elsewhere, and get a proper PPI inspection. People always make the mistake of thinking used 930's are rare, but they are around all the time and you will kick yourself if you pay more than $30,000 for a 930 unless it has the 5 speed tranny(1989). They are asking TOO MUCH for the car unless it is a stunning concours and perfect in every way. You can get a 930 for $25-30k. I seriously don't think they paid more than 25k for it, because they are in business to profit from Porsches.

If you buy from them, do a car search and find the exact history of the car, and have somebody independently verify the condition of the car-which they might not let you do...

I haven't read very good comments about Victory at this website.

On the other hand, just maybe...it's a good car. I am not a betting man, however, so I wouldn't bet on it.

Cajun

Please, whatever you do, run a search on this website.

jimculp

I paid $32.5 for my '86 930 with 65K miles from Victory.

iJeremy

We've always heard the stories from them on here and my opinion was always to look elsewhere,... That being said we have an 86' 930 that came from vicotry here in the shop now and it is simply one of the cleanest I've seen. Car was in very good shape, both cosmetically and mechanically. Regardless of WHERE the car comes from, a PPI is vital, they're all in it to make a buck so cover your ***, it'll save you $$ in the long run.

red9thirty

How was your experience? Was the car as promised? If you got a ppi, where did you get it?

jimculp

My experience was painless. I bought the car before I knew what I know now, so I bought based upon the photos and Roberts word- no PPI. I bought my car from Robert based on my dad's prior experience buying a '96 993 from him. It turned out even better than advertised.

My car came as advertised too. It had original paint, brand new rotors and pads, a good interior (the back shelf was recovered haphazardly but I don't know if Neal knew about it. If the car hadn't been taken apart during my project, I never would have seen the craftsmanship on the back of the panel) and a strong motor.

I broke a head stud shortly after taking delivery but didn't pursue the issue with Neal b/c I decided to convert the car to EFI with a full rebuild anyway.

If you get a PPI find a shop that isn't affiliated with Victory. Just because my family had two good experiences with the shop doesn't mean that all the other people complaining are lying.

edit- but in any business you are going to have dissatisfied customers- don't let the naysayers put you off from a good car IF it's really a good car.

citrus

Talking along the subject of price does any one have a price limit for a mint 1986 930 with 6000 miles onit? 65000k ?

Daley88930

I dispute the 25 to 30 number but conversations on the subject are endless and fruitless. Check Excellence and various other sources(SCM or Hemmings publish books quarterly). Also, these cars are close to being 20 yrs. old and much more. Many have been modified and, from my experience, they do not all share the same characteristics. Some come on boost later than others, some are generating more power,etc. One thing I can say that even the low number guys won`t dispute: They are really fun to drive and a totally rewarding car. Good Luck!

UDPride

$45K would be my limit and the car would have to be showroom new, even the undercarriage. Low mileage is the least important factor to automotive preservation unless its under about 10,000 miles. Then when you pay the premium for it, its only a solid purchase if you intend to keep the miles low and drive it at the same historical clip. So 22yrs and 6K miles means if you plan not to drive it more than 272 miles a year, it probably makes sense. Low mile cars are great for show and will clean house at the Porsche Parade and preservation class concours, but have their own set of problems because these cars operate far better when driven and parts are replaced after X years and X mileage.

If you look hard you can find a 40,000 mile 86 930 thats 98% as nice as a 6,000 mile one for $12,000-15,000 less. There are some well driven examples that are in beyond-belief condition if you are patient and look.

If I was buying an extremely low mile 930 Id probably opt for the 89 just because it may have more collector significance 20yrs from now. The price premium would probably be a much better investment.

Daley88930

i`ll go along with that even though my 88 has a 4speed and I like it. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and every car has detractors or owners who for some reason are negative. I think one thing that is overlooked about the 930 and why they shouldn`t be linked with other Turbos is their style and design- it is outrageous even now. Every inch of the car has purpose. The original 911 shape is hard to beat from a classic point of view and the 930 mods still turn heads.

epsdan

I agree with DDD above. I've have direct experience with two very nice 930's in the past couple of years, and both have been in the $25-$30K range (45K miles and 75K miles) - neither garage queens, but both very nice.

The sellers (including me!) always think their stuff is worth more, and the buyers always want a deal. The market is defined as the place where the two meet ...

Incidently, I bought my '83 in Houston from a private party. I drove past Victory, just for grins ... looked like a big warehouse to me.

Dan