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Old 11-21-2017, 10:08 PM
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Hi, I am currently looking to purchase a 930 and a 964 turbo as I am longing to get back into some air cooled fun that I used to have. I stupidly sold my previous cars and the current owners don't want to sell them back to me.

Anyhow, there seems to be 2 types of cars that I'm finding, either truly museum pieces or rode hard and put away wet with museum price tags.

I am trying to find a solid driver, mechanically strong, good bones, no rust, no salvage, no hacked together vehicle. I would like decent paint, but I have a great paint guy. I do want a good interior.

I am open to all colors/combos.

Solid modifications are fine with quality components that add to the drivability/performance. But no AutoZone mods.

I drive all my cars in any weather except snow. I do have museum pieces, but these are going to be pure enjoyment, keep me off of meds cars.

I have been speaking with 2 people about these cars and will post the links.

https://www.bentleygoldcoast.com/198...rbo-c-5640.htm

This car is a repaint, 5-6/10, oil seepage from valve cover gaskets(supposedly), A/C doesn't work, Chips on windshield, Brake pad sensors not connected, RT rear sway bar shifted causing marks on floor,Screw on Fuel Distr is stuck and hard to adjust, Some RUF mods, Odometer discrepancy(supposedly due to RUF gauges) Selling dealer seems to be honest about representing the car. Has sent me many pics and videos. Start up video does look a little rough, started on second try. No paper work, except stock manuals

Second car:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Porsch...pZ6~60&vxp=mtr

I like this car, but there is no paperwork, he has manuals, states everything works. Sent me a video and looks good. But almost to good from my untrained eyes.

Would like to hear your opinions on these cars.

If you have any others that I should look at please let me know, feel free to send me a PM.

Thanks!

Would have to do a full PPI
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fastmd
Hi, I am currently looking to purchase a 930 and a 964 turbo as I am longing to get back into some air cooled fun that I used to have. I stupidly sold my previous cars and the current owners don't want to sell them back to me.

Anyhow, there seems to be 2 types of cars that I'm finding, either truly museum pieces or rode hard and put away wet with museum price tags.

I am trying to find a solid driver, mechanically strong, good bones, no rust, no salvage, no hacked together vehicle. I would like decent paint, but I have a great paint guy. I do want a good interior.

I am open to all colors/combos.

Solid modifications are fine with quality components that add to the drivability/performance. But no AutoZone mods.

I drive all my cars in any weather except snow. I do have museum pieces, but these are going to be pure enjoyment, keep me off of meds cars.

I have been speaking with 2 people about these cars and will post the links.

https://www.bentleygoldcoast.com/198...rbo-c-5640.htm

This car is a repaint, 5-6/10, oil seepage from valve cover gaskets(supposedly), A/C doesn't work, Chips on windshield, Brake pad sensors not connected, RT rear sway bar shifted causing marks on floor,Screw on Fuel Distr is stuck and hard to adjust, Some RUF mods, Odometer discrepancy(supposedly due to RUF gauges) Selling dealer seems to be honest about representing the car. Has sent me many pics and videos. Start up video does look a little rough, started on second try. No paper work, except stock manuals

Second car:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Porsch...pZ6~60&vxp=mtr

I like this car, but there is no paperwork, he has manuals, states everything works. Sent me a video and looks good. But almost to good from my untrained eyes.

Would like to hear your opinions on these cars.

If you have any others that I should look at please let me know, feel free to send me a PM.

Thanks!

Would have to do a full PPI
As for the black car, does it have a front mount Oil Cooler? I see the RUF bumper, intercooler, ect. on the car. Does it have a upgraded turbo? When was the last engine rebuild, how far back does the documentation go? My advice would be get a car with a sound power plant since you stated you would be driving it rather then being a garage queen. The oil leak from the Valve Gaskets is fairly common, however it is a nice process to get them replaced. For reliability i would look for a car with an EFI conversion or a car with a recent rebuild.

I have a 930 that has a TurboKraft engine build running EFI and it is SOLID. Unfortunately with me, my car had its paint burnt by a "reputable" detailer so the entire car is being repainted right now.... Thats the only reason i am not driving my car weekly.

As for a car without paperwork I would pass personally, there could be hidden issues and these issues could be very expensive.
Old 11-22-2017, 10:16 PM
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fastmd, I own both cars and you will enjoy them. And there are too many junked up 930's out there, and to a lesser extent 964 turbos; perhaps lower volume and the prices really got crazy in the early 90's.
Go to RPM sports car in Houston and buy from Joseph an invesment grade 930 and be done.
The Chicago car has been for sale for a long time...Texas car I don't know.
Old 11-22-2017, 10:28 PM
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Prices on 930s seem to be all over the place.
Plus I'm not that familiar with them, although I'm sorta in the same place as the OP in that I'm hankering after one.
Not to hijack his thread, but what -is- a fair price range for a nice driver these days?
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Originally Posted by Alan A
Prices on 930s seem to be all over the place.
Plus I'm not that familiar with them, although I'm sorta in the same place as the OP in that I'm hankering after one.
Not to hijack his thread, but what -is- a fair price range for a nice driver these days?
I think it all depend what you consider a driver. These cars are 30+ years old now, so original paint with acceptable paint blemishes? A driver will be between 75K and 120K in miles in my opinion. That being said, I would say around 75-95K depending on what condition the motor, paint, what original parts that still exist on the car. Some things to consider if you want a reliable driver is, an EFI conversion. This makes a 930 much more reliable on a day to day basis. My car fires up first crank and has since the conversion by TurboKraft. I wouldn't dismiss a very solid restomod.
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Originally Posted by Igooz
fastmd, I own both cars and you will enjoy them. And there are too many junked up 930's out there, and to a lesser extent 964 turbos; perhaps lower volume and the prices really got crazy in the early 90's.
Go to RPM sports car in Houston and buy from Joseph an invesment grade 930 and be done.
The Chicago car has been for sale for a long time...Texas car I don't know.
+930 for RPM. The 24k mile '89 at Ray's is a perfect driver, 100% original, no paint work. Unmolested G50 cars are hard to come by.
Old 11-28-2017, 11:21 PM
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I almost bought the silver car 4 yrs ago, it was pretty solid as I recall.
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Thanks for all the replies, still searching.

TT surgeon, why did you pass on the silver car?
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I have a nice 88 911 turbo coming for sale. Wheels are not original, k27 with after market exhaust. Wrapping up an engine out service. Repaint in 95, 68K miles, loads of documentation. Car looks great, 20K+ in receipts, soon to be 25K+. Will list in a week or so. Feel free to pm.

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I own 4 early Turbo's. Love them all...
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Oh I really really like that green one...
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Originally Posted by rdwinelover
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I own 4 early Turbo's. Love them all...
Very nice!
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Originally Posted by fastmd
Thanks for all the replies, still searching.

TT surgeon, why did you pass on the silver car?
Sent you a pm
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No affiliation, high mileage, nice color combo in my opinion.

It was also for sale on Rennlist - not sure if it still is.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...modelCode1=911


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