How much would you pay for a 1976 Porsche 911 rolling chassis?
#1
How much would you pay for a 1976 Porsche 911 rolling chassis?
I am new to buying a Porsche and I am looking to purchase a 1976 Porsche 911S rolling chassis for sale. The car needs painted and interior work but is overall rust free. The guy says that he has a new 2.7L engine short block (not original to the car) for it and a 5speed trans.
I am looking to buy just the rolling chassis and 5speed trans. How much would that be worth or how much would you pay for such a car?
The car looks to be complete other than engine and trans being out of it. I am trying to stay away from the 2.7L engine because I have read so many bad things about them. I would be looking to do some kind of engine swap as originality does not really bug me.
What engine would you guys swap into it?
I am looking to buy just the rolling chassis and 5speed trans. How much would that be worth or how much would you pay for such a car?
The car looks to be complete other than engine and trans being out of it. I am trying to stay away from the 2.7L engine because I have read so many bad things about them. I would be looking to do some kind of engine swap as originality does not really bug me.
What engine would you guys swap into it?
#2
First, what is a "new" 2.7 short-block?... but lets leave that aside for the moment.
Assuming the tub is rust-free and has no accident damage, it is a great base for a hot rod... what you are buying the option to spend another $20-50K building a car.
I'd value a solid 74 tub at $2.5K, and a rebuildable gearbox core at $1K. Also does it have wheels?
Budget $3K for gearbox, $5-12K for body/paint, $4K for suspension/brakes, $10-20K for an engine, $5K for interior and misc fittings, $2-4K for wheels, and $3-5K for beer and hoots.
Have fun
Assuming the tub is rust-free and has no accident damage, it is a great base for a hot rod... what you are buying the option to spend another $20-50K building a car.
I'd value a solid 74 tub at $2.5K, and a rebuildable gearbox core at $1K. Also does it have wheels?
Budget $3K for gearbox, $5-12K for body/paint, $4K for suspension/brakes, $10-20K for an engine, $5K for interior and misc fittings, $2-4K for wheels, and $3-5K for beer and hoots.
Have fun
#3
Team Owner
yeah i pegged the chassis at 3 before reading JCP comments so there is your ballprk.
Your engine options are about as unlimited as your budget. But the most popular choice by far is the 3.0 litre engine.
You could go 3.2 or even a 3.6 although your tranny would need beefing up . But these options can get expensive fast as you have to upgrade brakes and suspension to keep pace.
Good Luck.
Your engine options are about as unlimited as your budget. But the most popular choice by far is the 3.0 litre engine.
You could go 3.2 or even a 3.6 although your tranny would need beefing up . But these options can get expensive fast as you have to upgrade brakes and suspension to keep pace.
Good Luck.
#4
First, what is a "new" 2.7 short-block?... but lets leave that aside for the moment.
Assuming the tub is rust-free and has no accident damage, it is a great base for a hot rod... what you are buying the option to spend another $20-50K building a car.
I'd value a solid 74 tub at $2.5K, and a rebuildable gearbox core at $1K. Also does it have wheels?
Budget $3K for gearbox, $5-12K for body/paint, $4K for suspension/brakes, $10-20K for an engine, $5K for interior and misc fittings, $2-4K for wheels, and $3-5K for beer and hoots.
Have fun
Assuming the tub is rust-free and has no accident damage, it is a great base for a hot rod... what you are buying the option to spend another $20-50K building a car.
I'd value a solid 74 tub at $2.5K, and a rebuildable gearbox core at $1K. Also does it have wheels?
Budget $3K for gearbox, $5-12K for body/paint, $4K for suspension/brakes, $10-20K for an engine, $5K for interior and misc fittings, $2-4K for wheels, and $3-5K for beer and hoots.
Have fun
#5
#6
yeah i pegged the chassis at 3 before reading JCP comments so there is your ballprk.
Your engine options are about as unlimited as your budget. But the most popular choice by far is the 3.0 litre engine.
You could go 3.2 or even a 3.6 although your tranny would need beefing up . But these options can get expensive fast as you have to upgrade brakes and suspension to keep pace.
Good Luck.
Your engine options are about as unlimited as your budget. But the most popular choice by far is the 3.0 litre engine.
You could go 3.2 or even a 3.6 although your tranny would need beefing up . But these options can get expensive fast as you have to upgrade brakes and suspension to keep pace.
Good Luck.
#7
I cant help with the pricing as I have never been in this market before. As for the 2.7 engine, If its has been rebuilt correctly with the known points of failure ( pulled head studs) corrected I would hold on to it and use it. I kept my 2.7 engine, had the req'd casing work preformed and used new 930 turbo steel studs for the heads. That was 13 yes ago and I havent looked back.
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#8
I cant help with the pricing as I have never been in this market before. As for the 2.7 engine, If its has been rebuilt correctly with the known points of failure ( pulled head studs) corrected I would hold on to it and use it. I kept my 2.7 engine, had the req'd casing work preformed and used new 930 turbo steel studs for the heads. That was 13 yes ago and I havent looked back.
Just for some perspective, a top-to-bottom professional rebuild on any 3.2 or earlier engine will run $12K minimum, and a rebuildable core will be $2-4K, so do the math here.
I'm very suspicious of "good" used engines... these run $6-10K, and could be great or could be timebombs...
If the 2.7 has good documentation on the rebuild and can be had for $6K-ish money, it may be a good option.
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1976 rust free roller with title would have to be 5k but can see 10k.
74-77 tub Makes for a good hot rod base and they are in demand lately thus prices are up.
1984-1989 3.2L would be nice engine i think.....
74-77 tub Makes for a good hot rod base and they are in demand lately thus prices are up.
1984-1989 3.2L would be nice engine i think.....
#10
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Ill buy every rust free middie roller you can find me for $2.5-3k. That's a 2010 price. Hell, just the suspension and brakes could be ripped off and sold for close to that. $5-8k is the real market in middies now.
Sounds like a fun project if you can turn wrenches. My only hesitation with that engine has nothing to do with it being a 2.7. A machined 2.7 is a great engine. Where I live a '76 needs smog, so smog pump and thermal reactors. I would put a 3.2 or 3.6 in a car like this and have more power with updated smog equipment.
Sounds like a fun project if you can turn wrenches. My only hesitation with that engine has nothing to do with it being a 2.7. A machined 2.7 is a great engine. Where I live a '76 needs smog, so smog pump and thermal reactors. I would put a 3.2 or 3.6 in a car like this and have more power with updated smog equipment.
#11
Thanks for the reply. I think a nice hot rod could be made of it. I am not concerned with 100% originality.
#12
Ill buy every rust free middie roller you can find me for $2.5-3k. That's a 2010 price. Hell, just the suspension and brakes could be ripped off and sold for close to that. $5-8k is the real market in middies now.
Sounds like a fun project if you can turn wrenches. My only hesitation with that engine has nothing to do with it being a 2.7. A machined 2.7 is a great engine. Where I live a '76 needs smog, so smog pump and thermal reactors. I would put a 3.2 or 3.6 in a car like this and have more power with updated smog equipment.
Sounds like a fun project if you can turn wrenches. My only hesitation with that engine has nothing to do with it being a 2.7. A machined 2.7 is a great engine. Where I live a '76 needs smog, so smog pump and thermal reactors. I would put a 3.2 or 3.6 in a car like this and have more power with updated smog equipment.
#13
If you really like the project, a couple grand more on the tub is really just p*ss in a hurricane... its really about condition. If the metal is good you'll save it all back on body-work.
Before you jump in the ocean, put a really detailed budget together.... then whack it up 50%...there's an old saying about swimming half-way across the ocean... make sure you can bring it across the finish line
GT makes an important point... definitely check with your state DMV about title rules and emissions... they can vary widely from state to state.
If you jump, send some pics.... we love spending OPM...