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Old 12-12-2014, 12:19 AM
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Default 1987-89 or 95-98?? What is the better buy

I like both 911 about the same,But it seems like the 87-89 have really gone up in price.
Would like to find a very nice example with 75k miles or less.
I need help-Thanx
Old 12-12-2014, 11:39 AM
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all depends on what you want and price point. No one can comment really with information you provided.
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The cars you mentioned are very different. You really need to drive them to tell which one may suit you better. The earlier car being a much more raw experience compared to the 993 which is heavier, and more refined in every way.

If you are leaning towards the earlier car PM me as I have an 1988 that I am looking to sell. Good Luck
Old 12-13-2014, 01:38 AM
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Sorry for being so vague.Im very famaliar with the 87-89 cars.The 993s not so much.I was thinking the earlier Carreras were a good buy and investment but the difference between them and the 993 price has grown closer.I was thinking 87-89 but maybe I should spend a little more for a 993.Both seem to be on the same level of reliability.Just need some opinions.
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Both are good in their own ways. There is a likelihood of both models to continue to appreciate in value. I would think the prices for the 993 will be higher especially for the 993 turbo. So, if think it comes down to what you really like.
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Rodney-Great color choice.How has the ownership been?How many miles and what do you think it's worth?
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In my opinion, each model 911 is about personal style. Do you want speed, do you want sun and fun, do you want gentleman classic, do you want stance... On and on. A 3.2 and a 993 are two absolutely different cars in style and performance. Then you throw in coupe, targa, and cab choices and you have an entirely different style. Get what appeals to you and your personal style. A car is an extension of your personality... Somewhat like clothing. A 3.2 is a "classic Porsche," a 993 is arguably the best air cooled 911, but it doesn't make a "classic Porsche" statement... At least not yet. Each model is unique and says something about the person driving it... Not to mention the different driving experience, which would be obvious.
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Great response,I agree with everything you said.Psychology major
It's not about speed, Got a guards red 997.1 GT3 for that.i really like color on Porsches.87-89 offer more color variation which really appeals to me.I truly like both cars equally for their own style and performance.im leaning towards 87-89 because of color(diamond blue)
But the little devil on my shoulder is also concerned which car might be the better investment.
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There is a perception amongst the 964 owners on this side of the pond that 993 engines do not last as long as 964 and we know 3.2 is the bullet proof engine. Not sure if this is correct as I do not know much about 993 however 3.2 is the one with the classic looks (read timeless). I think 993 gets all its credit for being the last aircooled & performance, personally I don't like the looks of 993 as it lacks the elegance of earlier cars. If you have a 997 and want to go classic then go full classic and not a modern classic.
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I had an '85, then an '87, then a '95. I owned the 993 for the shortest time and went back to an '85. The 993 was too refined for me and I didn't feel as connected to the car. I liked the better air conditioning, but that's not why I bought the car.
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1st gear, nice car - do you have some interior colours?
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Originally Posted by Mondrian
1st gear, nice car - do you have some interior colours?
Thank you! The interior color currently is brown and light tan. And it's beat. The person who was the second owner really did a number on it by having an obnoxious stereo installed and then the car must have sat outdoors for a while and been beat by the sun. The leather on the dash is pulled tight.

I'm currently sorting out the interior and replacing parts that were deleted due to the stereo. Blower motor covers. Rear interior quarters. Carpet. Etc. Instead of going back with the light tan carpet, I'll be going black. I think that will look best.
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Originally Posted by Red911.408
also concerned which car might be the better investment.
I can't think of a worse reason to buy a car, unless you're in the business.

Originally Posted by Mondrian
There is a perception amongst the 964 owners on this side of the pond that 993 engines do not last as long as 964 and we know 3.2 is the bullet proof engine.
Guessing you never had a customer car towed in with a ventilated case from a broken rod bolt (yes, usually a track overrev), or one that's ~60K quart-of-oil-every-500 miles burner. (Yes, a 3.2L I have in inventory went over 175K, and was a track rat from Day One. The P/C set was good enough that it was merely a top end/re-ring/bearing job.)

The 993 3.6L only comes apart over here in smog check jurisdictions because of the secondary air injection deal on the '96-8 cars. Other than that, all 964/993 valve guides wear out by 100K. Actually, all air cooleds--just that before the 3.2s you'd have a 90+% chance of puking a tensioner requiring a valve job. Anyway, most owners aren't motivated to do anything since oil consumption is within an acceptable range.
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Ditto on the investment rationale -- unless you know what you are getting into.

Drive both, see which one you enjoy the most and then enjoy the ride. Both models will be fun -- and will require work. Values will rise that help offset the expense, but don't expect to turn around in. 3 years and double your investment.
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Originally Posted by race911
Guessing you never had a customer car towed in with a ventilated case from a broken rod bolt (yes, usually a track overrev), or one that's ~60K quart-of-oil-every-500 miles burner. (Yes, a 3.2L I have in inventory went over 175K, and was a track rat from Day One. The P/C set was good enough that it was merely a top end/re-ring/bearing job.)

The 993 3.6L only comes apart over here in smog check jurisdictions because of the secondary air injection deal on the '96-8 cars. Other than that, all 964/993 valve guides wear out by 100K. Actually, all air cooleds--just that before the 3.2s you'd have a 90+% chance of puking a tensioner requiring a valve job. Anyway, most owners aren't motivated to do anything since oil consumption is within an acceptable range.
Not clear from your post how you rate them in terms of "road use" durability & reliability - would be great if you could rank 1,2,3.


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