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Yankee911Guy 06-09-2019 12:24 PM

Porsche Production Specification (New COA) With No Engine or Transmission Numbers
 
Has anyone gotten a PPS back that just lists the engine type and transmission type but not the specific numbers for them? This one is one for a car at a dealer and I thought it was a little strange.

Could the owner have purposefully asked to have the numbers left off?

Thanks!

myflat6 06-09-2019 01:22 PM

The rules changed with COA's due to fraud. When you request the COA you have to provide these numbers and they will confirm if they match or not (they will also print them on the certificate). The problem before is the COA would give this info and people were fudging the numbers on the cases to match.

Yankee911Guy 06-09-2019 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by myflat6 (Post 15896195)
The rules changed with COA's due to fraud. When you request the COA you have to provide these numbers and they will confirm if they match or not (they will also print them on the certificate). The problem before is the COA would give this info and people were fudging the numbers on the cases to match.

So for the example in question if a new one was requested and the numbers were given for the motor and transmission currently in the car, the new PPS may still show a matching car if the owner just never gave them the numbers when requested.

I wonder if this one is like this because the numbers didn't match or if maybe the owner just never gave them the numbers to compare...hmmm.

myflat6 06-09-2019 01:59 PM

^it is like this because they either didn't match or weren't provided. It is worth a shot to provide the numbers and see what happens, but these certificates take several weeks so I doubt you would get it back quickly enough to influence your buying decision.

Yankee911Guy 06-09-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by myflat6 (Post 15896256)
^it is like this because they either didn't match or weren't provided. It is worth a shot to provide the numbers and see what happens, but these certificates take several weeks so I doubt you would get it back quickly enough to influence your buying decision.

Got it, thank you.

myflat6 06-09-2019 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Yankee911Guy
Got it, thank you.

Or you could use this to your advantage in price negotiations for the car :thumbup: especially if you aren't set on numbers matching.

Mark Salvetti 06-09-2019 03:09 PM

The rules have changed again. The PPS will no longer show engine and transmission numbers. The only way to get those is to obtain a Classic Technical Certificate (CTC), which requires a dealer inspection and costs $500.

See this thread: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...s-now-ctc.html

And here for the Porsche explanation of the change (about halfway down the page): https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessor...leinformation/

Here are the CTC details, including the cost: https://www.porsche.com/usa/accessor...alcertificate/

Mark

myflat6 06-09-2019 03:24 PM

^ wow


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