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Old 04-30-2019, 10:19 PM
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Default Advice on this estimate for work on the 87 carrera

Just got a quote for the work attached on the document here. Seems to me like the labor cost is excessive. I’m in Los Angeles. Any recommendations? Thank you guys in advance for the help here. They want 2400 in parts and 2700 in labor... seems excessive?


Old 04-30-2019, 11:47 PM
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Parts prices are retail
labor and estimates look spot on really.
Rates are normal for here and the time is what I’d expect.
I don’t think you are being ripped off.
Old 05-01-2019, 02:38 PM
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Looks fair.
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Looks about right. I just spent $10k reconditioning a car for sale. It adds up quickly.
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Did you compare the prices on the suspension parts with Elephant Racing ?
On the shocks alone you would save close to $300

Best suggestion would be to find somebody who can help you do the work , suspension is not rocket science !
Although the spring plate bushings are somewhat of a pain , but you can save a bunch of money if you can do the easy stuff on your own ...
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DIY
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looks ok but they cannot spell!!!!!!!!
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Looks pretty normal for paying someone else to do it for you.
My local shop will not use customer supplied parts per their policy. I assume that is because they make some money on the parts as well. That is all fine and good if that is their business model. That is just the cost of having someone do it for you instead of DIY.

If you want a parts price comparison go over to Pelican parts and type in the part numbers. Decklid shock for example is $14 vs the $34.21 they are charging you. Spring plate bushing set $38 vs the $67 they are quoting you. It is an entirely other discussion but using "genuine porsche parts" vs the aftermarket OEM supplier is another angle. The genuine is sometimes the exact same thing and a greatly increased cost. Some parts it is worth while to get the genuine replacement such as a windshield seal but some I believe you are crazy to pay the Porsche pricing tax on.
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Both rear shocks in an hour? ****. They know something I don't, that's for sure.

Edit: Wait... an '87. Are the rears easier on an 87? In my '82 I had to lower the engine some and lay down backwards on the intake doing the work blind.
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Swapping the shocks on a lift is pretty easy. 1 bolt on bottom. 1 bolt on top. remove air filter to get to it with a ratcheting box wrench. it IS tight for sure.
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Labor looks accurate as long as you're getting quality warranted work done.
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I thought it looked ok and only question the "Suspension" ride height adjustment and alignment cost....... seems a bit high, but not catastrophic.
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Originally Posted by wareaglescott
Looks pretty normal for paying someone else to do it for you.
My local shop will not use customer supplied parts per their policy. I assume that is because they make some money on the parts as well. That is all fine and good if that is their business model. That is just the cost of having someone do it for you instead of DIY.

If you want a parts price comparison go over to Pelican parts and type in the part numbers. Decklid shock for example is $14 vs the $34.21 they are charging you. Spring plate bushing set $38 vs the $67 they are quoting you. It is an entirely other discussion but using "genuine porsche parts" vs the aftermarket OEM supplier is another angle. The genuine is sometimes the exact same thing and a greatly increased cost. Some parts it is worth while to get the genuine replacement such as a windshield seal but some I believe you are crazy to pay the Porsche pricing tax on.
It's often more than just the parts markup. It's making sure they are the right parts and it is warranty consideration. Most shops that will accept customer supplied parts make it clear up front that if it's the wrong part and they partially install it, you are paying all the labor, not just the quoted for the job. If there's a warranty issue many shops offer labor coverage on something they supplied and will coordinate the claim. You bring the part, you get no free labor if it fails, you pay to take it back out, and you handle getting it replaced. And if your car sits in the shop for several weeks while that happens you pay storage. It is way more than the $20/shock markup they are getting.
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Originally Posted by Spyerx
Swapping the shocks on a lift is pretty easy. 1 bolt on bottom. 1 bolt on top. remove air filter to get to it with a ratcheting box wrench. it IS tight for sure.
Tell that to my back! Getting both hands in there was a real struggle for me.
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Originally Posted by Dave Inc.
Tell that to my back! Getting both hands in there was a real struggle for me.
I still have scars on my arms :-)


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