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Sajan 03-12-2019 07:24 PM

Where do you connect the negative for the battery tender?
 
Oops, I have been connecting it to the negative terminal on the battery but apparently that's not right.
Where does everyone connect theirs?

This is the connector I have.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...23420aa825.jpg

Car is a 87, 3.2

r911 03-12-2019 07:26 PM

it's fine - do it

911Dave 03-12-2019 08:06 PM

Where did you hear it shouldn't be connected to the battery terminal? I've never heard of anyone connecting it anywhere else.

r911 03-12-2019 08:44 PM

it has to be a garbled stmt. from someone who confused a high amp battery to battery connection (which might arc & cause a BANG) with a low current output tender...

Sajan 03-12-2019 09:50 PM

That's what the manual for the CTEK charger says.
FOLLOW THESE STEPS WHEN BATTERY IS INSTALLED IN VEHICLE. A SPARK NEAR BATTERY MAY CAUSE BATTERY EXPLOSION.
For Negative-grounded vehicle, connect POSITIVE (RED) clip from battery charger to POSITIVE (POS, P, +) ungrounded post of battery. Connect NEGATIVE (BLACK) clip to vehicle chassis or engine block away from battery. Do not connect clip to carbure- tor, fuel lines, or sheet-metal body parts. Connect to a heavy gage metal part of the frame or engine block

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/01...82651556756717

I am fully aware of jump starting a car and never connecting the negative to the battery.

r911 03-12-2019 10:00 PM

well, it won't hurt

IIRC, C-TEK is Swedish, so expect super careful, high safety attitude from them

Ducowti 03-12-2019 11:30 PM

I'm no DC electrical expert, but for the last 14 years I've connected my tender leads directly to + - terminals on 2 boats, 4 motorcycles, 2 deep cycle marine batts during winter storage, a golf cart aux 12v battery, and 4 cars. All have lasted years longer than average/conventionally held. :shrug

911Dave 03-13-2019 12:06 AM

I didn't read the CTEK manual, but does it tell you to connect the leads before plugging it into the wall outlet? I only use a Battery Tender Jr., and always connect to the battery before plugging it in. Doing it that way prevents any possibility of a spark when connecting the negative lead.

Sajan 03-13-2019 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by 911Dave (Post 15700021)
I didn't read the CTEK manual, but does it tell you to connect the leads before plugging it into the wall outlet? I only use a Battery Tender Jr., and always connect to the battery before plugging it in. Doing it that way prevents any possibility of a spark when connecting the negative lead.

It does.
I actually leave the little connector on the battery and once I get home, I just pop the hood open and connect the little short dongle to the long cable coming from the charger.

I guess some of this info that's spread online must be related to the procedure for jump starting a car and not trickle charging using a battery tender. I will carry on doing what I am doing.

On the 991, there's an easy way to connect the negative, clearly labeled (-).
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...2570c42f6f.jpg

r911 03-13-2019 03:32 PM

yeh, don't worry about it


now, rubber fuel hoses, OTOH...


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...6efa177b1f.jpg

Sajan 03-13-2019 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Ducowti (Post 15699944)
I'm no DC electrical expert, but for the last 14 years I've connected my tender leads directly to + - terminals on 2 boats, 4 motorcycles, 2 deep cycle marine batts during winter storage, a golf cart aux 12v battery, and 4 cars. All have lasted years longer than average/conventionally held. :shrug

I don't think it's that affects the battery more than the safety aspect of it.

Some people think, like when connecting a battery to jump a car, there can be a spark (and thus an explosion resulting from vented hydrogen gas) if you connect the clamp to the negative terminal... and instead it should be grounded further away from the battery.
But now that I think about it, there shouldn't be a spark if you plug the clamps first, and then connect the charge to the wall.

911Dave 03-13-2019 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sajan (Post 15701778)
But now that I think about it, there shouldn't be a spark if you plug the clamps first, and then connect the charge to the wall.

As I said above. Impossible to create a spark if there's no connection to another power source.

Starbuckslova1 03-15-2019 11:36 PM

You can ground on the chasis or the battery

after all the ground on the battery connects to the chassis

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems 03-16-2019 12:33 AM

I've been connecting battery chargers & maintainers/tenders directly to the battery terminals without any issues whatsoever since 1960. :)

Same applies to jump starting cars in need of a little "boost".

Now,....late-model cars (2000-newer) are something else entirely and caution is strongly advised in those situations.

Sajan 03-17-2019 03:50 PM

Well to make it easier and safer I installed the other connector that came with the CTEK. It was a pain in the butt trying to loosen the nut on the terminals since it's a tight space.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...626461197c.jpg


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