What to buy 87 e.2 or 74 2.7
01-09-2019, 09:59 AM
#16
Burning Brakes
01-09-2019, 01:02 PM
#18
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I would vote neither. The 2.7 has been sitting too long, and the 3.2 sounds tired. The 2.7 is the worst 911 ever made, I would honestly rather have a 996.
01-09-2019, 05:16 PM
#19
Update, just had someone check out the 87, it was serviced 200km ago before that it sat for about a year and a half the owner got to busy to drive it. Steering column loose but owner has new bushing, sun roof not operational and air needs recharging, wipers didn’t work believe possible fuse, paint has chips will need to be done one day but could wait. The mechanic said car ran strong and started rate away and shifted easy. Had compression test done at previous service and was 175lb per valve, the owner said that when he had the car serviced he thought there may be a stuck valve because it sat for a year and a half, but the car started and ran strong for my mechanic, there are a few minor issues with interior like missing rear view mirror and sunroof off the tracks will not open electrically. I’m still leaning towards the 87 as I may be able to get it at a good price but just wondering if ther is a stuck valve how much will that cost to repair. The other stuff is minor I could probably handle those myself besides the air conditioning lol.
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01-09-2019, 05:17 PM
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01-09-2019, 06:28 PM
#21
Nordschleife Master
I’ll take a fresh 2.7 over a worn 3.2 any day of the week. Bruce Anderson poisoned a generation of owners’ Minds. If it ducked so bad why was it in the RS? Smog killed it. 74 didn’t even have smog stuff. Do time certs on rebuild and you’re golden.
01-09-2019, 06:56 PM
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Ya i dunno. I think the 2.7 from a 77 in my 71 feels pretty damn awesome. Super lively and great power and noise. The 3.2 in my 89 feels lazy by comparison and not as ready to go. It’s good up top but (my motor is very strong) but just feels held back compared to the 2.7.
3.6 in my 964 is another story. That thing pulls hard.
3.6 in my 964 is another story. That thing pulls hard.
01-09-2019, 08:45 PM
#23
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That and upgrade to an 11-blade fan and replace the thermal reactors with SSIs or headers, and you'll have a terrific, reliable engine. Those are standard upgrades included in a rebuild.
That 87 has all kinds of "minor" issues that point to a rough history. What kind of treatment results in a sunroof off the tracks, a missing mirror and rough paint? That car scares me. Like GTgears said, $20k for top end/G50 rebuild, and add another $10-15k for paint, and you are way deep into that car. The 74 with fresh engine and flawless paint is looking better and better with each new nugget of information we get.
That 87 has all kinds of "minor" issues that point to a rough history. What kind of treatment results in a sunroof off the tracks, a missing mirror and rough paint? That car scares me. Like GTgears said, $20k for top end/G50 rebuild, and add another $10-15k for paint, and you are way deep into that car. The 74 with fresh engine and flawless paint is looking better and better with each new nugget of information we get.
01-09-2019, 09:31 PM
#26
Nordschleife Master
01-10-2019, 01:48 AM
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01-10-2019, 07:38 AM
#28
Although I own a '87, in your case, I would strongly lean toward the '74. Earlier comments about the '87 you are considering being "tired" are spot on... Enough little things known wrong with the car to kill any confidence I would have that there are not bigger issues lurking. Twenty thousand future expense may be optimistic. My first 911 was a '77 coupe... wonderful car, nimble as a cat. I wish I still had it. So, knowing what I know about your situation, I'd say get the '74. Also, since you are really new to all of this, buy the best (condition) car you can afford. In Porsche world "buyer's remorse" comes in the form of $$$$s.
01-10-2019, 12:01 PM
#29
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My comment came off a little more curt than I intended.... But i really believe a CIS 2.7 911 is the worst of the breed. Suspending for a moment the 996, and if we grant that we assume all 911's are "good cars", there still hast to be a best and a worst. The mid 70s cars were like 5 grand when I got into Porsches, and it was even more of a hard pass back then. There was literally almost no love for those cars 20 years ago, and I can't understand for the life of me why they are coming on so strong right now.
