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Old 01-09-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by GTgears View Post
74. 140k on a g50 is near worn out. And it sounds like the engine isn’t much better. $20k in repairs right around the corner on that 87.
Sage advice from a member who knows more about Porsche transmissions than most.
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Old 01-09-2019, 01:03 PM
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The 87 3,2 unless the 2,7 engine is the rare Carrera engine!
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:02 PM
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I would vote neither. The 2.7 has been sitting too long, and the 3.2 sounds tired. The 2.7 is the worst 911 ever made, I would honestly rather have a 996.
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:16 PM
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Update, just had someone check out the 87, it was serviced 200km ago before that it sat for about a year and a half the owner got to busy to drive it. Steering column loose but owner has new bushing, sun roof not operational and air needs recharging, wipers didnít work believe possible fuse, paint has chips will need to be done one day but could wait. The mechanic said car ran strong and started rate away and shifted easy. Had compression test done at previous service and was 175lb per valve, the owner said that when he had the car serviced he thought there may be a stuck valve because it sat for a year and a half, but the car started and ran strong for my mechanic, there are a few minor issues with interior like missing rear view mirror and sunroof off the tracks will not open electrically. Iím still leaning towards the 87 as I may be able to get it at a good price but just wondering if ther is a stuck valve how much will that cost to repair. The other stuff is minor I could probably handle those myself besides the air conditioning lol.
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picture adding 20k worth of work to the price of the 1987
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Old 01-09-2019, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Auto_Werks 3.6 View Post
The 2.7 is the worst 911 ever made
**** no it isn't.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:28 PM
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I’ll take a fresh 2.7 over a worn 3.2 any day of the week. Bruce Anderson poisoned a generation of owners’ Minds. If it ducked so bad why was it in the RS? Smog killed it. 74 didn’t even have smog stuff. Do time certs on rebuild and you’re golden.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:56 PM
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Ya i dunno. I think the 2.7 from a 77 in my 71 feels pretty damn awesome. Super lively and great power and noise. The 3.2 in my 89 feels lazy by comparison and not as ready to go. It’s good up top but (my motor is very strong) but just feels held back compared to the 2.7.
3.6 in my 964 is another story. That thing pulls hard.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GTgears View Post
Do time certs on rebuild and youíre golden.
That and upgrade to an 11-blade fan and replace the thermal reactors with SSIs or headers, and you'll have a terrific, reliable engine. Those are standard upgrades included in a rebuild.

That 87 has all kinds of "minor" issues that point to a rough history. What kind of treatment results in a sunroof off the tracks, a missing mirror and rough paint? That car scares me. Like GTgears said, $20k for top end/G50 rebuild, and add another $10-15k for paint, and you are way deep into that car. The 74 with fresh engine and flawless paint is looking better and better with each new nugget of information we get.
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:50 PM
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I will 3rd the 2.7 for fun and free reving sprit. Since I picked up my 74 Targa I find myself grabbing the keys for it more than the GT4
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Old 01-09-2019, 09:51 PM
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The 74 had no thermal reactors and came with the 11 blade fan direct from factory.
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Old 01-09-2019, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 06C2s View Post
The 74 had no thermal reactors and came with the 11 blade fan direct from factory.
exactly. And my assumption is anyone putting a 77 longblock into one would use the early car parts. The cis system is also a bit different and one would want to retain that too.
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Old 01-10-2019, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 06C2s View Post
The 74 had no thermal reactors and came with the 11 blade fan direct from factory.
Right. Since this 74 has a 77 engine, I assumed it had the 5-blade fan and thermal reactors to start with, which would hopefully have been replaced in the rebuild.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:38 AM
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Although I own a '87, in your case, I would strongly lean toward the '74. Earlier comments about the '87 you are considering being "tired" are spot on... Enough little things known wrong with the car to kill any confidence I would have that there are not bigger issues lurking. Twenty thousand future expense may be optimistic. My first 911 was a '77 coupe... wonderful car, nimble as a cat. I wish I still had it. So, knowing what I know about your situation, I'd say get the '74. Also, since you are really new to all of this, buy the best (condition) car you can afford. In Porsche world "buyer's remorse" comes in the form of $$$$s.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rick brooklyn View Post
**** no it isn't.
My comment came off a little more curt than I intended.... But i really believe a CIS 2.7 911 is the worst of the breed. Suspending for a moment the 996, and if we grant that we assume all 911's are "good cars", there still hast to be a best and a worst. The mid 70s cars were like 5 grand when I got into Porsches, and it was even more of a hard pass back then. There was literally almost no love for those cars 20 years ago, and I can't understand for the life of me why they are coming on so strong right now.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:39 PM
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I wouldn't buy either of these cars for a combination of reasons listed above. What is your budget wand what do you actually want to drive and own?
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