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Old 11-30-2018, 12:49 AM
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Old 11-30-2018, 02:08 AM
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Definitely doubles the value of 993s.

If you're interested, I have a few. :-)
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If I were going to buy another 911, I would try to find a late 993 4S coupe with a 6 speed. I have a 997.2 C4S and it is a nice car but really does not float my boat like the 993 I had before it. As for the new 991, 992's they are just way to overloaded with everything and are now just touring cars.
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Old 11-30-2018, 03:58 PM
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Can't say I liked by 13 PDK, Do like my 02 C4S and 05 Turbo S Cab. Love my back dated 88 coupe hot rod. I do not see any correlation between the water and air cooled cars.
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Finally!! Something from jalopnik that is worth reading:
https://jalopnik.com/i-have-a-radica...911-1830753011
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Originally Posted by r911 View Post
Finally!! Something from jalopnik that is worth reading:
https://jalopnik.com/i-have-a-radica...911-1830753011
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:10 PM
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the 992 Cup will set the stage for the GT models.
And they will most likely be faster then the previous generation.
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Auto_Werks 3.6 View Post
long term though, we will probably see hybrids creep in, the manual transmission fade out, and much of the charm of driving disappear.
Not long term. Short term. The 992.2 is widely expected to have some hybrid crap.
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:40 AM
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Anytime a new generation of 911 is released, the world changes. It pushes all other older 911s down the line, for better or for worse. We arenít sure yet how good or bad the 992 is. It may affect the brand either way. One thing is for sure - older cars just got a little older.
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Old 12-01-2018, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by r911 View Post
Finally!! Something from jalopnik that is worth reading:
https://jalopnik.com/i-have-a-radical-proposition-for-the-2020-porsche-911-1830753011
You mean something from Rennlist that is worth reading:

Originally Posted by rick brooklyn View Post
The digital gauges, the shaver, the wet mode, the 21" wheels, and 1 inch longer, heavier. Every change goes in the direction of making it more of an executive grand tourer and less of a nimble sports car.

The hybrid version will be the last nail in the coffin of the 911 ethos. With the 992.2 they will have finally achieved the plan from 40 years ago to kill the 911 and replace it with the 928, albeit rear engined
Jalopnik:

the 911 has made shifts from a sports car to a GT car. Itís gotten larger, more stable, more comfortable, and easier to drive. The engine has become more and more refined. The new one even has a fixed cupholder behind the shift lever. A cupholder. At this point, the car is basically a 928 with the engine in the wrong place.
Well, you're welcome, Kristen Lee, next time an attribution would be nice.
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rick brooklyn excellent and bold comment, "...the final nail in the 911 ethos..." I agree and I am sad.
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Originally Posted by grgallo View Post
rick brooklyn excellent and bold comment, "...the final nail in the 911 ethos..." I agree and I am sad.
the supreme leader is dead... long live the supreme leader! ....... long live the cayman, for now
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Old 12-10-2018, 06:55 PM
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Disagree with whatís being said here. I own both aircooled and water cooled. Although, when it comes to the new cars, they need to be GT3, GT3RS cars to get close to the same feel. Still slightly prefer air, but the new GT cars are so good theyíre worth the trouble to get one. I donít think Iím alone in being someone who enjoys both flavors.

As for the 992. Not into the standard cars although they are very nice. Iíll wait for the GT cars to decide but so far prefer the 991 and 997 over 992.




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Old 12-11-2018, 12:07 AM
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it all went downhill when they killed the 356 for that big GT car
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Its not just about the car (992)... Porsche has changed into just another car company. Its not the company I revered for so many decades. Sure the 911 has evolved into a bloated car. Yes, its faster, more luxurious, handles better, is more powerful, uses less fuel, etc etc.... the cost is astronomical too. The same thing has also happened across the whole model lineup. Don't get me wrong, I will always love the cars and the company and I believe they're the class leaders in all of their models. The entry level Porsche is now a base Macan, Try building a decent base Boxster for under $70 grand. Also gone is the sub $100k 911. Gone is the Sub $100k Cayenne S. Okay so the entry level Porsche sports car is now really a CPO car. The pressure on the dealers to move more cars is intense, some of them still do a really great job running their franchises but its killing some of the smaller ones. I believe the "experience" at the dealerships is pretty good, and so is corporate support for the product. What would it be like if they made a $50k entry level sports car in coupe form?
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