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Old 09-12-2017, 09:48 AM
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Thw carbs are webers, but not sure what model numbers, totally stock motor, just perfectly tuned. You can see the crank after seizing, it actually turned after cooling off. Motor was weak so complete rebuild was performed. We did a 911 motor for his 914gt at the same time hence all the jugs.








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This picture of Gadsby's is without the EFI (or carbs), intake & emissions stuff on the top.


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Originally Posted by Pep!RRRR
With all due respect. You need to find someone who is knowledgeable about these cars to look at it with you. I would send an email to the local PCA chapter representative and ask for help. If the tub is in good shape and the engine is rebuildable then you have a worthwhile project car. If the tub is a rust bucket you will have a big $$ problem...You can spend the money now and get a great car or spend the money later to build a great car. But you really need that solid basis to start with. Remember that every little piece of rubber trim and whatnot adds up to serious $$ if you have to replace all of it.
To the OP: This is GREAT advice. It will cost the same to restore this car as a 911, but a 911 has far more upside value. I am 3 years into full #1 restoration of an early 911. I bought it for $18K having already owned multiple Porsches, including very early. It was a running, externally OK car. I did the suspension and brake work. Still, it has needed EVERYTHING else. Frame, rust repair, rechroming, and bodywork $15,000. Paint $10,000. Interior $12,000. Engine rebuild and other mechanicals $15,000. Parts, another $20,000 at least. By the time it is finished, I'll have $90,000 into it. The good news is that even at that price I still have upside. This 912E does not.
Old 09-12-2017, 05:11 PM
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Well said, it needs to be complete in whatever fashion you want to buy it but get all the parts. It's fine for fun, project, driver, but perfect will be way upside down. As you can see by these pics we don't take ourselves to serious. We're track guys at heart so the rubbing and stuff is total afterthought, but we do have some nice clean older Porsches.

depends on what you want, it's nice to have choices when you wake up!






Originally Posted by raspritz
To the OP: This is GREAT advice. It will cost the same to restore this car as a 911, but a 911 has far more upside value. I am 3 years into full #1 restoration of an early 911. I bought it for $18K having already owned multiple Porsches, including very early. It was a running, externally OK car. I did the suspension and brake work. Still, it has needed EVERYTHING else. Frame, rust repair, rechroming, and bodywork $15,000. Paint $10,000. Interior $12,000. Engine rebuild and other mechanicals $15,000. Parts, another $20,000 at least. By the time it is finished, I'll have $90,000 into it. The good news is that even at that price I still have upside. This 912E does not.
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Originally Posted by Pep!RRRR
With all due respect. You need to find someone who is knowledgeable about these cars to look at it with you. I would send an email to the local PCA chapter representative and ask for help. If the tub is in good shape and the engine is rebuildable then you have a worthwhile project car. If the tub is a rust bucket you will have a big $$ problem.

When I bought my Targa I maxed out the budget to get a car in really nice shape, which I've been enjoying ever since. You can spend the money now and get a great car or spend the money later to build a great car. But you really need that solid basis to start with. Remember that every little piece of rubber trim and whatnot adds up to serious $$ if you have to replace all of it.
I agree and very well said. I go back and forth with this 912E or spending the money on the 78SC targa in the garage (slooow project). You guys are making more sense as the days go by. I'd love to wake up and have choices, like Gadsby said
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Originally Posted by 808Bill
You can buy a good 996 for that money by the time your done with a rebuild...

Good and 996 shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
there is no such thing as a good 996.
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Originally Posted by Gt3stig
Good and 996 shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
there is no such thing as a good 996.
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Originally Posted by Gt3stig
Good and 996 shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
there is no such thing as a good 996.
This is where the best 996 models spend their time!
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Originally Posted by Gt3stig
Good and 996 shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
there is no such thing as a good 996.
That made me laugh!

Originally Posted by Gadsby



This is where the best 996 models spend their time!
I have to believe there are some good examples out there as well. There's a 996 Turbo around me which gets driven maybe 3-5 times a week which still looks great and is still on the road.
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Looks like a nice candidate for a Subaru transplant. Check them out if you have not seen them.
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I've seen a subaru engine in the cars but the wiring looks insane. The seller actually has a subaru motor next to the car that he plans to install when he has time. He already has the transmission mount to adapt the two together!
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This 912 was at fuel car show, not a very clean installation, some cheeky work in there, but good enough I guess.

Nice car but I would go original, but that's me.


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Is that a water line shut off valve I see in there? With its handle too!!
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Lots of bs in there!



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