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As someone with a 2022 Spyder sitting at Port Jacksonville, waiting for the 2022 model year to be certified by the EPA/CARB, is there a consumer-facing website that anyone knows about where I can monitor the certification timeline or progress? Thanks!
You can monitor the EPA site directly and view the submitted documents.
The site does not get updated in real time—it lags.
Last year the on sale date was 4 Dec. First week of Nov my SA sent me the screenshot below—estimating new sale date. The cars were certed on 16 November and immediately released from the port.
If you’re in one of twelve CARB states it’ll likely be latter. Last year like 4-6 weeks later.
I searched the system and an application for the 2022 4.0 models has not been entered into the system. I suspect we will see an application entered in September. October 1 delivery might be optimistic, but since there have been no engine changes, it could go quickly.
I searched the system and an application for the 2022 4.0 models has not been entered into the system. I suspect we will see an application entered in September. October 1 delivery might be optimistic, but since there have been no engine changes, it could go quickly.
That’s what I thought when my car was being built on September 6th, 2020 as a 2021 Model Year. I still thought that when my car arrived in Port of Benicia, CA in early October. I took delivery on 16 December, finally. Being the same engine as the 2020s didn’t help a bit. The 2021 911s released at the same time, my dealer had 20 to 30 cars arrive the same week as mine, most of which had sat in port for months.
Are we 100% sure that recertification must be done on an annual basis --- even when the OEM doesn't change anything?
My takeaway from the EPA link below is that the certification system remains substantially the same as it was some years back. Specifically, one had to perform the testing for "each combination of loaded vehicle weight class, transmission class, and basic engine." Thus, I can understand why the introduction of the PDK on 2021 models would require a new test for them and they could not be sold until those results came through. (Presumably the manual transmission versions would not have been delayed)
If I am wrong and every new model year requires testing (even if no changes are made) then we'd also have to consider that those subject to the Conrod fiasco and who did not yet get a 2021 production replacement engine will ALSO have to wait for this certification. Why? Because EPA certification applies to both engines and motor vehicles.
Not sure how reliable this is, but I spoke with someone on the delivery side at PCNA when enquiring about PEC delivery (my car is due end of October) and was assured that there should not be any delays in EPA/CARB certification this year like there were last year.
Are we 100% sure that recertification must be done on an annual basis --- even when the OEM doesn't change anything?
My takeaway from the EPA link below is that the certification system remains substantially the same as it was some years back. Specifically, one had to perform the testing for "each combination of loaded vehicle weight class, transmission class, and basic engine." Thus, I can understand why the introduction of the PDK on 2021 models would require a new test for them and they could not be sold until those results came through. (Presumably the manual transmission versions would not have been delayed)
If I am wrong and every new model year requires testing (even if no changes are made) then we'd also have to consider that those subject to the Conrod fiasco and who did not yet get a 2021 production replacement engine will ALSO have to wait for this certification. Why? Because EPA certification applies to both engines and motor vehicles.
Yes, every new MY gets certified.
USG doesn’t test, the manufacturers self certify USG compliance and testing.
08-07-2021, 05:32 PM
2022 EPA Certification
