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Porsche of Beverly Hills screwed me

Old 05-12-2021, 05:28 PM
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Default Porsche of Beverly Hills screwed me

Well, Sam at Beverley Hills Porsche screwed me out off an allocation.

Been in talks with them since Feb. , he offered me 3% off MSRP at that time as soon as an allocation became avail. Even sent me screen shots showing the discount and have been in contact on a regular basis.

Well, they got an allocation for me and now then are trying to charge me $5K over MSRP. I am BEYOND PISSED!!!

I know some of you said he was lying, but I took him at his word. People have no Fing ethics anymore.

I don't need to hear I told you so as I am now out of an allocation and not on any other lists for a car.
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05-12-2021, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dnimi123
Sam is the finest SA I have ever met, very honest and actually the #1 Porsche salesman in the US the past 8 months. Not his fault the market has shifted and the dealership wont honor a quote. There was no contract, no deposit, no nada. It was a quote based on prices at the time. Everyone is well aware that the market for cars like this shifts constantly.
If I may play devil's advocate. I understand markets shift and in this case, it appears to have shifted away from OP's favor towards the dealer and that's why they're not honoring the 3% discount and is now charging $5k ADM. On the flip side, many folks purchased the car during COVID with many putting deposits at the beginning of covid (March 2020) and the market moved drastically in the customer's favor during that time. I suppose people could have gone to the dealers and asked for further discounts on the cars as supply/allocations started flooding the market, inventory built up on showrooms, and covid seemed to only be getting worse and worse in the early days of covid. Funny thing is, I recall a RLister asking about going back to the dealer and asking for more discount since the market was getting softer on big purchases especially luxury purchases and he basically got blasted on RL with many people saying how would he like it if the market shifted back to the dealer's favor and if he would appreciate it if the dealer then turned around and reneged on the aggreement and then charge an ADM?

Personally, if the (gentlemen's) agreement was for 3% off, they should honor it. Otherwise, Porsche of BH should have made an agreement to say something like due to current market conditions, we're willing to offer you 3% discount off MSRP but this is subject to change based on market conditions as determined at the time of delivery. This would have been stated up front so that the customer knows that there is a chance that the 3% discount might not stick if market conditions shift back to the dealer's favor.

That is how I would prefer business be done. Call me old school but my dad taught me that your word (and honor) is supposed to mean something.
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What model?

SA's earn their reputations I'm afraid.
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I'm sorry man, that sucks. Keep working it and maybe they will come back to MSRP at least. I got so sick of calling dealers and getting the runaround on deals/empty promises that I went with a broker and it was smooth sailing. Right up until the stop-sale of course
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Originally Posted by UncleDude
What model?

SA's earn their reputations I'm afraid.
2022 GT4
Old 05-12-2021, 05:40 PM
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That sucks. If you pick up on it they better throw some extras in there
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Well that sucks.

Not to rub salt into the would, but people did try to offer caution on what you were hearing earlier in the allocation thread.

I'd jump back into the allocation thread -- people are posting up available allocations and consider the broker posted. Think he has great reviews and cost is very reasonable.

What was happening year/6 months ago is no longer applicable. San Antonio is a small outlet and my SA is telling me the lists/calls are crazy right now. Jump when you find something.
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I'm sorry to hear. It seems that the market has taken a turn whereas previously, dealers had inventory with open allocations but with the suspension and con rod recall, chip shortage, and whatever else is disrupting the supply chain, it seems that it has now flipped in favor of the dealers. Maybe not to the point of getting $25k ADM like pre-covid but people have reported $5k ADM whereas we were just at people getting discounts on floor models not too long ago.

It appears that you're in the SoCal area and you may feel as if you're behind the game since you have to start shopping now. May I suggest instead of calling around, go on the configurator and build your car the way you want it. Take the Porsche code and then create an email template and then send the email to all of the local dealers asking for an allocation and their price. If this doesn't net you anything, fan out and even start looking out of state since you can always do PECLA delivery. I created a thread on this. This is the only way we've bought our cars since 2004 and it has always worked out perfectly. Good luck.

https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...l#post16767379
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did you give them a deposit? if so, doesn't the deposit serve as some sort of binding contract on the agreed price? i guess its too late now...
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Originally Posted by 2PUTT
did you give them a deposit? if so, doesn't the deposit serve as some sort of binding contract on the agreed price? i guess its too late now...
No deposit, but have screen shots showing the discount he was offering me on my build.

No prior communication that the pricing was going to change. Got a call that I had an allocation, followed by @ $5K over MSRP.


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Probably Porsche NA will do nothing. I would ask to speak with GM and see if he can correct that.
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Originally Posted by 2PUTT
did you give them a deposit? if so, doesn't the deposit serve as some sort of binding contract on the agreed price? i guess its too late now...
I'm not sure about other states but in CA, giving a deposit doesn't constitute an actual sales contract especially if nothing has been signed such as an actual sales contract. It's just really seen as a good faith deposit and unfortunately nothing more than the honor system. In this case, it seems Porsche Beverly Hills didn't honor the gentleman's agreement.
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Originally Posted by Christmas50
Probably Porsche NA will do nothing. I would ask to speak with GM and see if he can correct that.
On that now, Left a VM, hoping they call me back soon.
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Good luck!
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Well.... I was just there today and saw Sam (totally unrelated to this thread obviously). Its not his fault. There are just no cars at all. BH Porsche is getting a small handful (less than 5) of these cars (GTS, Spyder and GT4) thru the end of 2021. They also are not getting any regular Boaxsters or Caymans. I dont think anyone will be getting anything below MSRP on these cars going fwd. The time to have made a deal was when buying the car in the fall/winter of 2020. The market has really tightened in the past few months as we all know. They tell me that this is the last of these cars and there wont be a 2023 except for the GT4RS and they have a line out the door waiting (I have begged them to get me an allocation for the GT4RS, but fully expect that if they do, it will not come cheap!). Things might change but its unlikely as the march to hybrid or electrification rolls on.... This said, if I were you I would take the allocation as you likely wont do better and as long as the deposit is refundable, you have nothing to lose that way.
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Market tipped down, with inflation rumors in the wind. Allocations might start being easier to find if that continues. How many here are "relying" on a bloated stock market to afford this car?
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