P31M156

Both great cars, but the GTS will hold it's value better long term.

ipse dixit

LOL.

Both cars are GTSs

doallstuff

@MaddMike thank you!

> Although this is your DD, you work remotely so I'm not sure how you would use it. Picking up from the cleaners? Coffee runs? Grocery shopping? Road trips? Running errands? Weekend drives?

Pretty much - driving to meetup with friends, driving to the gym, errands etc. Not shopping in particular, I do deliveries for pretty much everything


> For a true, weekend driver, I would say something topless would win.

I wanted something topless initially, but that would have to be a second car. The place I live in has an unbearable weather for ~5 months a year

Xxyion

Ive never owned a 911, though i eventually want to. my current daily driver is my Boxster GTS 4.0. I will say the GTS is quite practical as a daily. As some people on here have mentioned, the backseats might sound like it would allow you to take friends around, but the reality of the situation is, unless your friends are tiny and around 4" tall, they may not fit and if they do they will be quite uncomfortable. Which honestly thats just sports car life. So sure maybe you cant take everyone, but you'll be in a Porsche.

Like a lot of people have said, choose the one that speaks to you more. Theres no wrong choice here, but there will be differences in driving dynamics.

The nimbleness you speak of it a feature of the 718. its a mid engine platform, a much smaller car, and you'll find rotating it quite easy. the 911 is a bigger car, and rear-engine, which means all your weight is at the back and so while you've have superior rear grip, it wont feel as nimble.

I personally would choose the 718 (as i obv did) because i liked the small feel of the 718 and how it feels like you can just dart around.

6IXSPD

The 911 is a bit more refined IMO so it would be the better choice if you were driving it more often, but based on the described use cases, my vote would be the 718 GTS.

MaddMike

I honestly think the 911 is a bit more classic and if I only had one car I think that would be it--especially if you do road trips or longer getaways. Just a better all-rounder. Don't worry about the age as Porsches are extremely reliable if properly maintained. If you were going topless then a Boxter would be the way to go as it was designed to be topless vs. the 911 which was designed to be topfull (?), but if you need a roof, my vote is the 911.

AviBen

I've owned, and still do, both a 718 (went from a 4-pot GTS to a Spyder) and a 911. I love them both, but more often than not I choose to drive the 718 -- even over the 911 Turbo S -- simply because it seems to be more fun to throw it around. In your case, the fact that the 718 is 5 years newer with full coverage is an added bonus. (I'd be curious as to why the owner gave it up.) I also suspect the rear trunk in the 718 will be more often usable for you than putting stuff in the back seat of the 911. However, either way you go, you'll be getting a great driving car!!

Higgs Boson

Personally, I would base the choice on which car will depreciate less monetary units during your ownership. All else is a toss up, enjoyment, cost of maintenance, etc.

If the depreciation calculation is also equal then good luck to you in your decision.

NEUN_ELF

They are very different cars. Post 997, the 911 became more of a sporting tourer than a pure sports car. That said, the 991 feels much smaller and closer to a pure sports car than the 992, which is a posh, large, touring coupe.

The 718 CGTS4.0 is the purest road-oriented sports car Porsche makes today, and one of the best sports cars they have ever made. It’s like taking a car from 2008 and bringing it up to date in the little ways that matter (better materials, CarPlay, better dynamics, more optimized engineering). But it feels 2008 in all the ways you’d want it to.

The 991.2 GTS is much faster car. It will also be more comfortable and spacious as a daily/tourer. It will be very engaging, but not as engaging as the CGTS. A lot of that is due to the fact that it’s turbocharged. Some people love turbocharged motors, others prefer NA. I’ve had both variations from Porsche and find NA more fun to drive on the road. I personally feel the power and torque delivery of a turbo 911 has limited utility on the street and can be hard to enjoy without constant fear of lose-your-license type tickets. The way they build speed is otherworldly.

Both will hold their value well.

It’s really a personal preference thing. They are different enough that one should speak to you after driving both. Just get the one that makes you smile more. I wouldn’t assume the 911 is that much more practical. The rear seats aren’t really seats. So base the decision on the other stuff.

slilley

I've seen a few people comment that the 911 GTS will be faster than the Cayman GTS. Technically, this is true. BUT, since the OP won't be taking this car to the drag strip, the one- or two-tenths of a second longer to reach 60 or 80mph won't be a factor in day to day driving. All these cars are freaking overkill for street driving, even a base 911. No matter which you choose, your car will be faster than 99% of the cars that share the road with you. And when it comes to track days, that extra power of the 911 won't make much of a difference either, as the driver experience and skill is a much bigger factor in lap times.

Most of my P-car friends have 911s, and I had a 997.2 C2S before my Cayman GTS4.0. One area where my friends all agree the GTS 4.0 is superior is the exhaust sound (especially with a valve controller giving you full control over PSE). The turbos in the 911s definitely mask some of the great engine sounds.

Since the Cayman is newer, it should have fewer needs than the 911 - although I wouldn't expect a significant difference since both are relatively new.

Buy whichever car speaks to you the most! If in doubt, you really can't go wrong with any 911...it's got more cachet than the Cayman in most non-enthusiast eyes. I personally think the 911 looks best, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

To be fair, be prepared to find either car somewhat boring on the street, as the performance far exceeds what you can routinely use. I live for empty stretches of road, empty on-ramps/off-ramps, empty underpasses/tunnels, plus AutoX and track time where the car can actually be exercised properly. In my PDK car, 2nd gear is good for 75mph, and 3rd gear is good for 104mph. These speeds are even higher on the 6-speed cars (82 & 113mph I believe).

Adrift

The only difference of relevance to me is do you want turbo or NA? The rest is a wash, unless you prize 911 cachet. Also, 911 might hold long term value better.

718GTS4L

the enclosed trunk will be more useful than backseats for storage. you won't need to worry about things going flying.

the NA 4L engine will sound better than the 3L turbo

since this will be your daily driver, will you have more than one other family member to drive around? the backseats in the 911 won't be good for anyone other than children. You will also have less people asking you for rides (sorry, I only have 2 seats).

MaddMike

This article popped up today in my feed.

https://www.thedrive.com/car-reviews...s-cars-options

ipse dixit

As your first Porsche, I think you should go with a 911.