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Old 06-14-2023, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbza
China is one of their largest markets, and I'm pretty certain they only get the 4 pots, so there's that....

Also if that were true, why not keep producing the GT4/Spyder? Why continue with just the CGTS and BGTS for MY24?
Did you price out the China Spyder.

Yes, yes, some 4 pots will be produced.

Don’t be pendantic, my point was the line is going upmarket.

I didn't say there wouldn’t be any 4 pots.
Old 06-14-2023, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Did you price out the China Spyder.

Yes, yes, some 4 pots will be produced.

Don’t be pendantic, my point was the line is going upmarket.

I didn't say there wouldn’t be any 4 pots.
You're the one making statements about what Porsche will and won't do... I'm simply stating there has been no official word on what models will be produced alongside the EV model. We already know about the 4RS and SRS, but we don't know the future on what models (non GT cars) will continue.

If your statement that PAG extracts the most from high trims, why continue with the 4.0 engined BGTS/CGTS, and not the GT4/Spyder? My guess is they will wind them down also, and keep producing the "whatever" edition 4 pots because they are the cheap entry level option into a P-car, and I'd imagine the EV's will be quite a bit more expensive.... but it's all guess work at this point.



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Old 06-14-2023, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 6IXSPD
Keeping my fingers crossed for you! How long is your trip? I’m scheduled for 7/10 at Leipzig (V300 pushed to 6/23), it’d be great if timing works and we can meet up.
Them moving my pickup to 7/13 messed me up schedule wise. With it being on a Thursday I’m trying to decide when to fly in and if I should stop by our office in Stuttgart earlier that week and work or fly later and spend some time over the weekend. My co-worker will be back home until the 17th that I’m close friends with so I’m working on his schedule too to hang out while I’m there. I definitely planned on going to the Alps so let’s look at schedules as it gets closer and see what works.
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Old 06-14-2023, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbza
You're the one making statements about what Porsche will and won't do... I'm simply stating there has been no official word on what models will be produced alongside the EV model. We already know about the 4RS and SRS, but we don't know the future on what models (non GT cars) will continue.

If your statement that PAG extracts the most from high trims, why continue with the 4.0 engined BGTS/CGTS, and not the GT4/Spyder? My guess is they will wind them down also, and keep producing the "whatever" edition 4 pots because they are the cheap entry level option into a P-car, and I'd imagine the EV's will be quite a bit more expensive.... but it's all guess work at this point.
We already know which models will be produced for MY24. They’re on the configurator.

They’re making more 4RSs than GT4s by a wide margin in any single year. Expect Spyder RS to be the same.

No need to make regular Spyder, BGTS same price with less content. Also need the capacity to pump out the Spyder RS while increasing 992 production.

That’s my point, whole line went significantly upmarket both in trim, special editions, and last two price increases.

PAG, a publicly traded company, has stated higher profit returns a goal. The 718 configurator shows that trend.

I never said they’d eliminate the base.
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Old 06-15-2023, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
We already know which models will be produced for MY24. They’re on the configurator.

They’re making more 4RSs than GT4s by a wide margin in any single year. Expect Spyder RS to be the same.

No need to make regular Spyder, BGTS same price with less content. Also need the capacity to pump out the Spyder RS while increasing 992 production.

That’s my point, whole line went significantly upmarket both in trim, special editions, and last two price increases.

PAG, a publicly traded company, has stated higher profit returns a goal. The 718 configurator shows that trend.

I never said they’d eliminate the base.
I said along side the EV, which is slated for 2025, so not sure what the current configurator proves.... also can't help but laugh at special editions being considered significantly up market
Old 06-15-2023, 02:55 AM
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@lilbza isnt your imaginary car supposed to be here by now?
Old 06-15-2023, 02:57 AM
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@lilbza isnt your imaginary car supposed to be here by now?
Collection day this coming Monday if you must know
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:31 PM
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Once I have the final data for GT4\Spyders (which will take another month or two probably, the data for latest VINs is only that they exist), I will start a new thread for all the data for MY20-MY23 for both models
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Looking forward to it. Would love some type of sheet that allows you to see all the cars, would be helpful for someone trying to hunt a unicorn spec.
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Old 06-17-2023, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stitchtosample
Looking forward to it. Would love some type of sheet that allows you to see all the cars, would be helpful for someone trying to hunt a unicorn spec.
I gave it a lot of thought, and I am trying to think how to do it without being at risk legally (personally), as I know Porsche is suing (right now, as we speak) services that provide VIN data that isn't public

I can get the following data - exterior color, top color, interior, LWBS, PCCB, lights, wheels, black calipers - giving numbers on every possible unicorn build results in 26,880 possible combinations.
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
I gave it a lot of thought, and I am trying to think how to do it without being at risk legally (personally), as I know Porsche is suing (right now, as we speak) services that provide VIN data that isn't public

I can get the following data - exterior color, top color, interior, LWBS, PCCB, lights, wheels, black calipers - giving numbers on every possible unicorn build results in 26,880 possible combinations.
Are PTS colors encoded into the VIN?
Old 06-17-2023, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skafia
Are PTS colors encoded into the VIN?
The VIN only contains information about the model, year, and factory. If there was anything else, it would be public record.
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
The VIN only contains information about the model, year, and factory. If there was anything else, it would be public record.
Porsche must have another database then because after adding my VIN as a car on their website it lists the PTS color. I don't remember this happening for my previous GT4, must be new.
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Originally Posted by skafia
Porsche must have another database then because after adding my VIN as a car on their website it lists the PTS color. I don't remember this happening for my previous GT4, must be new.
It only makes sense that there will be extensive information about a particular car that can be tied back to the VIN, far more then can be coded into the VIN itself.

As for your old GT4, I am sure that information such as colour was associated to the data connected to it's VIN, you just didn't see it.
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Originally Posted by 944xMiata
I saw a FBM Spyder driving around Austin the other day. Literally stopped what I was doing to gawk at it, looked incredibe.

Meanwhile, nobody gives a rats *** about a mexico/miami/shark blue GT3. I'm pretty sure you could lose your car in the paddock at COTA. Where's the yawn icon?
that's pretty personal/ad-hominem atttack and unwarranted dont you think @944xMiata ?

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