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Old 05-30-2023, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
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I think the car is absolutely begging to be manual ...
You might know this already… but for those who don’t — Preuringer has stated flatly that the necessary space for the 6-speed GT3 gearbox does not exist; and he isn’t going to engineer a new manual transmission specifically for the 718.

Don’t know why he wouldn’t. Porsche prints profit faster than the US Treasury prints tender. They are money grabbing on almost every model now with big time margins — even if it were €150 million to research and develop the new transmission starting 3 years ago, they easily recoup that.
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
You might know this already… but for those who don’t — Preuringer has stated flatly that the necessary space for the 6-speed GT3 gearbox does not exist; and he isn’t going to engineer a new manual transmission specifically for the 718.

Don’t know why he wouldn’t. Porsche prints profit faster than the US Treasury prints tender. They are money grabbing on almost every model now with big time margins — even if it were €150 million to research and develop the new transmission starting 3 years ago, they easily recoup that.
Not really challenging you but do you actually have a link to either printed information or a video where he states this? I don't think they have to engineer a completely new transmission for this application...
Old 05-30-2023, 07:29 PM
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I would prefer a MT, but I wouldn’t pass on this just because it doesn’t.

If a MT version comes out, just trade this in on that one.

Regarding the top and tracking this car, I bet most buyers have another car they can track…
Old 05-30-2023, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Not really challenging you but do you actually have a link to either printed information or a video where he states this? I don't think they have to engineer a completely new transmission for this application...
I can’t dig it up right now (getting back on the road — road trip in North Carolina canyons &#128515 but it was in an interview with an automotive journalist and reported in writing… maybe see if you can find it using an internet search in the meantime.

It was a discussion about the gear ratios in the 718 Spyder/GT4 which he acknowledged to be quite tall — he said he cannot swap the GT3 box because it doesn’t fit; he also said changing the green ratios would be a huge undertaking resulting in a different transmission altogether which is wouldn’t do.
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Originally Posted by raymort
I would prefer a MT, but I wouldn’t pass on this just because it doesn’t.

If a MT version comes out, just trade this in on that one.

Regarding the top and tracking this car, I bet most buyers have another car they can track…

Sure that is possible, but if the MT never comes then I will have given up my perfectly spec'd 6MT Spyder.

As for the track, I would only have one car that I can take there, the Spyder or Spyder RS, and 200 KPH is not enough.
Old 05-30-2023, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
I can’t dig it up right now (getting back on the road — road trip in North Carolina canyons &#128515 but it was in an interview with an automotive journalist and reported in writing… maybe see if you can find it using an internet search in the meantime.

It was a discussion about the gear ratios in the 718 Spyder/GT4 which he acknowledged to be quite tall — he said he cannot swap the GT3 box because it doesn’t fit; he also said changing the green ratios would be a huge undertaking resulting in a different transmission altogether which is wouldn’t do.
I think I recall the same sentiment from AP, but he also said the GT3 engine wouldn’t fit and would never be in a Cayman platform…until it did.
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
I can’t dig it up right now (getting back on the road — road trip in North Carolina canyons &#128515 but it was in an interview with an automotive journalist and reported in writing… maybe see if you can find it using an internet search in the meantime.

It was a discussion about the gear ratios in the 718 Spyder/GT4 which he acknowledged to be quite tall — he said he cannot swap the GT3 box because it doesn’t fit; he also said changing the green ratios would be a huge undertaking resulting in a different transmission altogether which is wouldn’t do.
Again, part of the discussion, but there are multiple sources for gears that work in the manual transmissions for these cars, and regarding the MT in the GT3, wasn't it actually a modified PDK, hence the 7 speeds as opposed to 6 in the normal MT?
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Tracking a ~500 hp car with no top is a non-starter for me. And I'd wager that less than 5% of these cars will be regularly tracked, probably less than 1%.

It's basically a PDK-only Spyder with a 9k rpm engine, not a real RS car in any meaningful sense.
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Any rumor on when allocations will be released for the US market?
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Originally Posted by Westcoast
Sure that is possible, but if the MT never comes then I will have given up my perfectly spec'd 6MT Spyder.

As for the track, I would only have one car that I can take there, the Spyder or Spyder RS, and 200 KPH is not enough.
If you can order a Spyder RS, please do so! You won’t care that it’s PDK once you take it around the first backroads turn. You have other manual transmission cars, as do many of us; we will step into those for a manual experience.
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Tracking a ~500 hp car with no top is a non-starter for me. And I'd wager that less than 5% of these cars will be regularly tracked, probably less than 1%.

It's basically a PDK-only Spyder with a 9k rpm engine, not a real RS car in any meaningful sense.
Yep, I tracked a Turbo GT. I’ll be doing that again with the new model way before the Spyder RS.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Tracking a ~500 hp car with no top is a non-starter for me. And I'd wager that less than 5% of these cars will be regularly tracked, probably less than 1%.

It's basically a PDK-only Spyder with a 9k rpm engine, not a real RS car in any meaningful sense.
I would take a SRS to the track, for the experience, not to run the best lap times or run with the crowd, but to explore what the car has to offer, so lets take the RS out of the name, add the manual transmission and head out to the canyons!
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Old 05-30-2023, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Tracking a ~500 hp car with no top is a non-starter for me. And I'd wager that less than 5% of these cars will be regularly tracked, probably less than 1%.

It's basically a PDK-only Spyder with a 9k rpm engine, not a real RS car in any meaningful sense.
Oh it’s a real RS car. Has suspension hardware from the 991.2 GT3 RS. Will be way more hardcore than the 718 Spyder, which is a good thing since the 718 Spyder is not quite edgy enough for many.

By the way - the Spyder variants have a lower center of gravity than their Cayman siblings — that roof in the Cayman and the body around it weigh something. I had a Cayman 4.0 GTS and I noticed the body roll and higher center of gravity compared with my two Boxster variants (981 and 982).

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256 pages in and people still whinging about the transmission 😂 I don't even know why you'd bother hanging in this thread when it's clear the car is not for you.
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Old 05-30-2023, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 348SStb
By the way - the Spyder variants have a lower center of gravity than their Cayman siblings — that roof in the Cayman and the body around it weigh something. I had a Cayman 4.0 GTS and I noticed the body roll and higher center of gravity compared with my two Boxster variants (981 and 982).
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