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Old 05-22-2023, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
Car is great as it is and all this controversy over roof, trans, trackability, etc could have been avoided if they used a name without rs in it. That's what's throwing everyone off. Call it the roadster instead and no hubbub
Agree, though it also needed to be offered with manual.
Old 05-22-2023, 02:44 PM
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there are some good comments in that post, and he responded to a few about the transmission - glad he engages and I like his candid replies
Old 05-22-2023, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Manifold
Agree, though it also needed to be offered with manual.
agreed but that was never happening. I posted that here day 1. No business sense to do it. But if they did it would sell for 350k minimum.
Old 05-22-2023, 06:50 PM
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Anything with "RS" name will be PDK.

I recall Porsche saying the amount of warranty claims with manual were much higher in GT cars compared to GT cars with PDK.

The question is, will they make a non RS GT4 and non RS Spyder in 2024, and if so, will they too get the 992 GT3 motor?
Old 05-22-2023, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 95spiderman
Car is great as it is and all this controversy over roof, trans, trackability, etc could have been avoided if they used a name without rs in it. That's what's throwing everyone off. Call it the roadster instead and no hubbub
How about Spyder 500
No one ever complained about the original Viper having no top. But then again it had a manual trans, no exterior door handles and was a Dodge.
Old 05-22-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Anything with "RS" name will be PDK.

I recall Porsche saying the amount of warranty claims with manual were much higher in GT cars compared to GT cars with PDK.

The question is, will they make a non RS GT4 and non RS Spyder in 2024, and if so, will they too get the 992 GT3 motor?

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Old 05-27-2023, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Anything with "RS" name will be PDK.

I recall Porsche saying the amount of warranty claims with manual were much higher in GT cars compared to GT cars with PDK.

The question is, will they make a non RS GT4 and non RS Spyder in 2024, and if so, will they too get the 992 GT3 motor?
I’m about to do a second manual trans on my GT3 at 10k miles…
Old 05-27-2023, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
I’m about to do a second manual trans on my GT3 at 10k miles…
What percentage of that is track time?
Old 05-27-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
I’m about to do a second manual trans on my GT3 at 10k miles…
You need to replace the entire transmission? Or just the clutch?

Have you ever had to replace a transmission on a different car previously?
Old 05-27-2023, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
I’m about to do a second manual trans on my GT3 at 10k miles…
On the street the manual transmission should last the life of the car, curious what problems you had with 2 transmissions?
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A good amount is track time.

The synchro from 2->3 went out.

The first indication is 3rd being a little loose and then it not holding a gear shift from second when doing at flat shift at ~9k rpm.

When it first starts being an issue, you can’t tell on street driving. Eventually it goes bad and you hear grinding. There is also a little glitter in the fluid.
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Nothing wrong with the clutch. PAG doesn’t let the dealer open up the box. It’s a complete trans swap.
Old 05-27-2023, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
A good amount is track time.

The synchro from 2->3 went out.

The first indication is 3rd being a little loose and then it not holding a gear shift from second when doing at flat shift at ~9k rpm.

When it first starts being an issue, you can’t tell on street driving. Eventually it goes bad and you hear grinding. There is also a little glitter in the fluid.
Sounds like the same problem that 981 GT4s had.
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Originally Posted by raymort
A good amount is track time.

The synchro from 2->3 went out.

The first indication is 3rd being a little loose and then it not holding a gear shift from second when doing at flat shift at ~9k rpm.

When it first starts being an issue, you can’t tell on street driving. Eventually it goes bad and you hear grinding. There is also a little glitter in the fluid.
Gotcha.

Any chance you might bypass the synchros altogether by executing double clutch downshifts (and maybe even upshifts)?

I personally never utilize the synchromesh on a downshift. Every downshift is a double clutch downshift - synchromesh bypassed.
Old 05-27-2023, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by raymort
A good amount is track time.

The synchro from 2->3 went out.

The first indication is 3rd being a little loose and then it not holding a gear shift from second when doing at flat shift at ~9k rpm.

When it first starts being an issue, you can’t tell on street driving. Eventually it goes bad and you hear grinding. There is also a little glitter in the fluid.
So would you venture to say that the Flat Shift process was the precipitation of the synchro failures? And was this the same for both transmissions?

This may be why Flat Shift wasn't offered in the regular 718 GT4/SPYDER with manual transmission.


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