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Old 01-16-2020, 12:07 PM
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That is the question I want answered too.

What are the gear ratios going to be? a.k.a. the last GT4 ratios

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Old 01-16-2020, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by thesaintusa
That is the question I want answered too.

What are the gear ratios going to be? a.k.a. the last GT4 ratios
It will be the exact same 6spd they use in all the others. Parts bin etc.
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Old 01-16-2020, 12:20 PM
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Is there any weight difference between the 2.5 and the 4.0?
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Old 01-16-2020, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by swagon
According to the German website, the 4.0 GTS Cayman is just 15 kg heavier than the GT4. 30 kg more than the 2.5 GTS.
I wonder what accounts for the weight gain over the GT4? The GTS has smaller/lighter wheels, tires, and brakes (and maybe suspension also?)...
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Old 01-16-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by alemaniac
Well, my local dealer is indicating that the base price on the Cayman GTS 4.0 will be $90,000 USD. If true, I’m having a hard time deciding, as that’s less than a $10,000 between the GTS 4.0 and the 718 GT4. And I was gonna do a low spec GT4 anyways.

And, it seems perhaps even tougher justifying more for the GTS 4.0 vs a low mileage CPO 981 GT4. Decisions, decisions...
According to my math, the Cayman GTS should be just under $85k (same as 981 GT4)
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Old 01-16-2020, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MidEngineRules
Not quite. It depends on the force (multiplied torque) transmitted to the ground. Gearing matters most. Porsche can make a NA car destroy the 4T will a simple change in gearing. They'll probably have to, but whether they do we'll soon see.
I think Porsche has made it very clear that they are not going to develop a new gearbox for this car (the new GT4 would have one, if they were going to make changes)- it will share the same GT4 gearbox from the 981 and 718.
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Old 01-16-2020, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by swagon
According to the German website, the 4.0 GTS Cayman is just 15 kg heavier than the GT4. 30 kg more than the 2.5 GTS.
Originally Posted by jamesinger
Is there any weight difference between the 2.5 and the 4.0?
In lbs - for us non-systemei internationale people:

the 718 GTS 4.0 is 33 pounds heavier than the 718 GT4

the 718 GTS 4.0 is 66 pounds heavier than the 718 GTS 2.5
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I wonder what accounts for the weight gain over the GT4? The GTS has smaller/lighter wheels, tires, and brakes (and maybe suspension also?)...
Aluminum front fenders compared to steel front fenders, would be another place the weight of the GT4 is lighter.
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd B
Aluminum front fenders compared to steel front fenders, would be another place the weight of the GT4 is lighter.
Thx, I thought all the 991 and 718 had Alu fenders now.
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Old 01-16-2020, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1
What about the Boxster?
With the 718 it's the same weight for Cayman and Boxster(/Spyder).
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Old 01-16-2020, 02:42 PM
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Thx, I thought all the 991 and 718 had Alu fenders now.
Yea, I was surprised when I checked my GTS and found the fenders were steel.
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JCviggen
It will be the exact same 6spd they use in all the others. Parts bin etc.
Since the engine case is the same as the 3.0 in the 911, I would not be surprised if the GTS would get the 7 speed from the 911 or previous 718 for emission purpose. It will also further differentiate it from the GT4 to keep the customers in their separate box
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Originally Posted by tgavem
Since the engine case is the same as the 3.0 in the 911, I would not be surprised if the GTS would get the 7 speed from the 911 or previous 718 for emission purpose. It will also further differentiate it from the GT4 to keep the customers in their separate box
Except that would result in 7 different reverse gears and one forward

There is no previous 718 7spd Manual...
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:39 PM
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Oh man oh man. Last April, I found/bought a 987 Spyder. White, 6 speed, buckets. Perfect, and I just had it paint corrected/PPF removed/reinstalled. Now, Porsche does this. If I'm perfectly honest, although I prefer the way the 987 drives to my old 981, there's a part of me that misses the practicality of the Cayman. The seats were easier for my wife to get in/out of. The car had a roof, so the threat of rain didn't make me think twice about taking it out. I'm on the list at my dealer locally for a 718 Spyder, but there's part of me that's thinking hard about this 4.0 Cayman. I've never bought a new Porsche and there's also a certain appeal to doing a European Delivery trip with my wife, doing a PEC ATL delivery, and then bringing it home. Unfortunately I only have garage space for 1 fun car.
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Old 01-16-2020, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ToasterThief
Oh man oh man. Last April, I found/bought a 987 Spyder. White, 6 speed, buckets. Perfect, and I just had it paint corrected/PPF removed/reinstalled. Now, Porsche does this. If I'm perfectly honest, although I prefer the way the 987 drives to my old 981, there's a part of me that misses the practicality of the Cayman. The seats were easier for my wife to get in/out of. The car had a roof, so the threat of rain didn't make me think twice about taking it out. I'm on the list at my dealer locally for a 718 Spyder, but there's part of me that's thinking hard about this 4.0 Cayman. I've never bought a new Porsche and there's also a certain appeal to doing a European Delivery trip with my wife, doing a PEC ATL delivery, and then bringing it home. Unfortunately I only have garage space for 1 fun car.
Let me know if you ever want to sell the 987 Spyder. That is a car that I have always considered
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