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Old 03-23-2021, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by kart125
I finally had time this WE to install the risers that I had in garage since last fall...

Install was super easy. The OEM base plates as well as covers where not that hard to remove and left really little adhesive to remove. I was ready for the infamous backing out of OEM insert but everything went fine! I'd say 45 min job being careful not to scratch paint.

Quality of product (finish, fit of base plate) is awesome compared to OEM. I only have some pictures in garage but will try to get better ones outdoor to post. Definitely improves the aggresivness of the look compared to OEM.
Awesome, let's see those photos! The difference in finish is really striking in person - cast vs. CNC. That rough texture is replaced by perfectly smooth surfaces and crisp beveled edges.

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Looks the way the car should have come from Porsche? Any feedback on this from the track guys?
We agree! Tons of our customers track their GT4's. It's a small increase in downforce while actually decreasing drag in the cleaner air stream. We ran CFD on the 981, which gave +5lbs @ 80mph, which is a 20% gain on the stock wing. We don't have the exact data on the 718 yet, but it should be very similar, probably a little bit more of an increase actually because the 718 wing is more effective starting point.
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Are these in stock? May place an order later today.
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Old 03-23-2021, 08:11 PM
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Yes they are! Shipping out same day or next day depending how close to the USPS cutoff it is. Free USPS Priority for domestic orders.

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Just posting a pic of them on my 981, they really complete the car.
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Old 04-22-2021, 10:59 PM
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Got mine done last weekend and wonderful product.





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Hi Guys,

ran through the whole thread and i really love the look of the higher wing for sure, i was wondering if someone here with actual knowhow in the whole aerodynamics thing can shed light on a few concerns,


1, My thoughts that Porsche set up the wing in a certain way because they know what they're doing obviously
2. will it have a negative effect on the car in general? my driving style is B roads at high speeds occasional track use but mainly mountain passes, b roads. will it unsettle the car at high speeds? if so at what speeds?
3. what adjustment if any do i have to do to make sure the car will not be out of balance if i go ahead with the RSNV wing Risers
4.is it worth it overall? its not the cheapest Mod in the world, but i do enjoy the aesthetic benefit think it really looks the business. but in the opinion of the people who have bought one is it worth it?


if someone can find the time to give me some thought's id be very grateful

thanks

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Originally Posted by Krizze
Hi Guys,

ran through the whole thread and i really love the look of the higher wing for sure, i was wondering if someone here with actual knowhow in the whole aerodynamics thing can shed light on a few concerns,


1, My thoughts that Porsche set up the wing in a certain way because they know what they're doing obviously
2. will it have a negative effect on the car in general? my driving style is B roads at high speeds occasional track use but mainly mountain passes, b roads. will it unsettle the car at high speeds? if so at what speeds?
3. what adjustment if any do i have to do to make sure the car will not be out of balance if i go ahead with the RSNV wing Risers
4.is it worth it overall? its not the cheapest Mod in the world, but i do enjoy the aesthetic benefit think it really looks the business. but in the opinion of the people who have bought one is it worth it?


if someone can find the time to give me some thought's id be very grateful

thanks

Kris.
Hi Kris, I actually had a chance to ask Andreas Preuninger the same question(s), along with a couple of photos of the RSNV risers. This was his response:

"Looks cool but will negatively influence balance. On track you need additional downforce friendly modifications at the front to compensate. For street use in speed limited countries I would not worry, on a German autobahn I definitely would. But it looks nice, that's true."

So I think for 99% of folks who aren't running their car regularly at triple-digit speeds, I don't think there's going to be any adverse/noticeable effects. For those that are concerned, using some front bumper dive planes like on the 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and the Sharkwerks GT4 could help balance out the aero, possibly in addition to removing the aero pieces underneath the front bumper. I agree that Porsche (and Manthey Racing) prefers the wing at a specific height for a reason, but with AP's comments in mind, I think most folks can feel pretty confident that it's not going to negatively impact their experience for the majority of use.

I am in the minority in that I actually like the look of the wing at a lower height, but I can't deny that the build quality of RSNV risers are so much nicer than stock. I wish they made them at stock height or even just a tiny bit higher, but I understand why they don't—most folks wouldn't bother spending $1k to make their car look the same.
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Originally Posted by KelvinC
Hi Kris, I actually had a chance to ask Andreas Preuninger the same question(s), along with a couple of photos of the RSNV risers. This was his response:

"Looks cool but will negatively influence balance. On track you need additional downforce friendly modifications at the front to compensate. For street use in speed limited countries I would not worry, on a German autobahn I definitely would. But it looks nice, that's true."

So I think for 99% of folks who aren't running their car regularly at triple-digit speeds, I don't think there's going to be any adverse/noticeable effects. For those that are concerned, using some front bumper dive planes like on the 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and the Sharkwerks GT4 could help balance out the aero, possibly in addition to removing the aero pieces underneath the front bumper. I agree that Porsche (and Manthey Racing) prefers the wing at a specific height for a reason, but with AP's comments in mind, I think most folks can feel pretty confident that it's not going to negatively impact their experience for the majority of use.

I am in the minority in that I actually like the look of the wing at a lower height, but I can't deny that the build quality of RSNV risers are so much nicer than stock. I wish they made them at stock height or even just a tiny bit higher, but I understand why they don't—most folks wouldn't bother spending $1k to make their car look the same.

Much appreciated for taking the time out to explain, i won't be bothering based on what you've said thanks!!
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Originally Posted by Krizze
Much appreciated for taking the time out to explain, i won't be bothering based on what you've said thanks!!
Hi Krizze,

Steering you off of the risers was not my intention. This is RSNV’s thread and it was not my intention to dissuade anyone from them. I think they are awesome—both in production quality and the customer service. My comment, if anything, should help relieve concerns for anyone thinking of running them in pretty much all scenarios except for above triple digit speeds. Even then, figuring out how to balance the aero in front seems like AP’s advice.
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I forgot to add pictures... here are a few...
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Here a couple of pics from an Express Rally last weekend. They really do a great job IMO transforming the rear end.


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Old 05-28-2021, 11:41 PM
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I just finished installing these risers, definitely transformed into a way better looking rear end. Here’s a quick garage picture for now.

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Old 05-29-2021, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinC
Hi Kris, I actually had a chance to ask Andreas Preuninger the same question(s), along with a couple of photos of the RSNV risers. This was his response:

"Looks cool but will negatively influence balance. On track you need additional downforce friendly modifications at the front to compensate. For street use in speed limited countries I would not worry, on a German autobahn I definitely would. But it looks nice, that's true."
​​​​​​Keep in mind if it does upset the aero balance, it's going to upset it into understeer. You're creating more rear grip... But these cars are rear limited, the front end has more mechanical grip than the rear. If it does add understeer that's a very predictable handling characteristic!

Also if you're that worried about it you can leave it at the lower angle of attack and remove the front block off so that should get you to about where you want to be, if you insist on keeping the factory aero balance. All while not adding additional drag in the rear.


​​​​​​It seems that the general consensus of people who are really into driving dynamics on here is that the rear could use more grip. ​​​​​

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I love it. My wife said when we first met it’s amazing what a few inches can do.


Any pics of GT4’s with balanced front aero? Dive planes.

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Old 07-11-2021, 02:40 AM
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Just recieved my risers!

Thanks again Matt @RSNV. The packaging and most importantly the risers look absolutely beautiful. Can’t wait to get these thrown on the cars!

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