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Old 02-09-2021, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by n4v4nod
These are the spy pic of the Macan next facelift:
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:45 PM
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gotta keep a microfiber cloth handy to deal with all those fingerprints you'll get on those stupid gloss black buttons
Old 02-10-2021, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
I’ve driven a ton of electric cars, and own two of them, I just would never call them “fun”.
I drove the Taycan Turbo and it was hugely entertaining!! It also weighs more than my Wrangler though... so while I think it's a ton of fun, I wouldn't remotely think the tech can transfer to something like a Cayman and be just fine. Right now an EV is either super heavy or very limited in range. Batteries are heavy and there's no getting around that. So while I loved driving it... having something like it to take to track days, even if the track had chargers and could fill it up between sessions, is a no go. It's just not gonna handle like a sports car. Physics won't allow it.
Old 02-10-2021, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
I drove the Taycan Turbo and it was hugely entertaining!! It also weighs more than my Wrangler though... so while I think it's a ton of fun, I wouldn't remotely think the tech can transfer to something like a Cayman and be just fine. Right now an EV is either super heavy or very limited in range. Batteries are heavy and there's no getting around that. So while I loved driving it... having something like it to take to track days, even if the track had chargers and could fill it up between sessions, is a no go. It's just not gonna handle like a sports car. Physics won't allow it.
I get it, the Taycan is a bit of an outlier as far as performance oriented EV's - I do think that the novelty would eventually wear off and in daily driving mode it's an appliance. The range is an issue for me and I scratch my head at the price - EV's are far simpler overall (I know batteries drive costs) and the only version that would interest me is $200k - and for that vast sum I have to accept zero sound during acceleration (that $500 fake noise option isn't doing anything for me).

I'm curious how the Taycan performs in resale (too soon to tell), if it follows other EV's, the drop will be steep. What happens when these are $65k cars on the 3rd owner who can just barely afford payments and the battery needs replacement? What will Porsche charge for that? $10k? $15k? Will these future owners be willing to pay that bill? I know this is a hypothetical and rare, but with the new fast charging being pushed by Porsche it is conceivable that these batteries will degrade much faster when used on these chargers regularly.

I look at pure EV's like I do Apple watches, they are the hot new thing for about 2 years post-launch, but eventually they will all end up in a landfill. I am a mechanical watch / flat 6 kind of guy.
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Old 02-10-2021, 08:54 PM
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I heard from a dealer today that the launch would be at the end of the month. So is it the Gt3 launching on the 16th? Or the gt4RS?
Old 02-10-2021, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jlee504
I heard from a dealer today that the launch would be at the end of the month. So is it the Gt3 launching on the 16th? Or the gt4RS?
I’d love for it to be the gt4rs but the event says it’s a 911.
Old 02-10-2021, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jlee504
I heard from a dealer today that the launch would be at the end of the month. So is it the Gt3 launching on the 16th? Or the gt4RS?
Gt3 is the 16th... no news to dealer principles re GT4RS date
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Old 02-10-2021, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexCeres
I’d love for it to be the gt4rs but the event says it’s a 911.
thats what I saw too but mostly I’ve been seeing screen shots I haven’t gone to the site itself.

can’t imagine they would do a gt4RS launch a few weeks later.
Old 02-10-2021, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jlee504
thats what I saw too but mostly I’ve been seeing screen shots I haven’t gone to the site itself.

can’t imagine they would do a gt4RS launch a few weeks later.
4RS July-August
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Old 02-10-2021, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
I drove the Taycan Turbo and it was hugely entertaining!! It also weighs more than my Wrangler though... so while I think it's a ton of fun, I wouldn't remotely think the tech can transfer to something like a Cayman and be just fine. Right now an EV is either super heavy or very limited in range. Batteries are heavy and there's no getting around that. So while I loved driving it... having something like it to take to track days, even if the track had chargers and could fill it up between sessions, is a no go. It's just not gonna handle like a sports car. Physics won't allow it.
The upcoming Tesla Roadster will set the benchmark for what EV sports cars can be in the next generation. I’d expect whatever Porsche does to be a close competitor to that. And it likely won’t directly replace the cayman or 911.
Old 02-10-2021, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jlee504
I heard from a dealer today that the launch would be at the end of the month. So is it the Gt3 launching on the 16th? Or the gt4RS?

Soooo...from test mule to final product in 1-2 months? I don't think so.
People...when you see a final, almost final products testing plus the typical PR shorts then you can add 4-6 months to an actual launch.
and stop listening to dealer!
Old 02-11-2021, 10:17 AM
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There you have it
Old 02-11-2021, 11:14 AM
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This is the GT3 launch, not the GT4RS. I'm being told the GT4RS is probalby a fall launch and a 2022 car.
Old 02-11-2021, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by joejenie
This is the GT3 launch, not the GT4RS. I'm being told the GT4RS is probalby a fall launch and a 2022 car.
My guess is that the GT3 may be a MY2022 car in the US...
Old 02-12-2021, 04:40 PM
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4RS July-August
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Totally unrelated but I have a question about one of your old cars. Could you please contact me?
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