718 GTS 4.0
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01-16-2020, 05:27 PM
#122
Burning Brakes
so is this car coming to usa? and only stick, no pdk? thanks
01-16-2020, 05:57 PM
#123
configurator is up on Porsche GB
01-16-2020, 06:00 PM
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01-16-2020, 06:11 PM
#125
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The GTS 4.0 is around $16K cheaper than the GT4 on the Russian configurator. Fairly significant.
One thing I noted on the interior pics of the configurator is that the GTS has a lower red line than the GT4 which is at 8K. Looks like the old NA tach which goes red from 7600.
One thing I noted on the interior pics of the configurator is that the GTS has a lower red line than the GT4 which is at 8K. Looks like the old NA tach which goes red from 7600.
01-16-2020, 06:18 PM
#126
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Porsche plays games with weights and options (base, lightest, options availability on one and not the other, etc.) to muddy the waters and to make apples to apples comparisons between models or generations hard. Can anyone confirm that the 4.0 engine is 66lbs heavier than the 2.5T?
01-16-2020, 06:46 PM
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I think it depends on the torque curve doesn't it? And certainly the situation. Stoplight to stoplight I would expect the 2.5 to be faster by the numbers and to feel noticeable quicker by the seat of the pants. The motor in the GT4 needs to be 4500rpm or higher to really start to come on boil (and I don't expect its been altered much if at all for the GTS 4.0) where the 2.5 is making max torque starting at just above 2000rpm.
If it's a situation where both motors can hang out all day above 4500rpm then the higher hp number of the 4.0 should start to pull ahead, at least in theory.
If it's a situation where both motors can hang out all day above 4500rpm then the higher hp number of the 4.0 should start to pull ahead, at least in theory.
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01-16-2020, 06:59 PM
#129
Burning Brakes
gts needs pdk while gt4 should be stick. that would help differentiate them. i would love a boxster gts over a c8 but too much trouble to get boxster approved for hpde. c8 is targa so best of both worlds. still a gorgeous car in that green
01-16-2020, 07:18 PM
#130
Don't hold your breath... My dealer today told me that the GTS 4.0 will probably only come to North America in the summer of 2021, more than a year from now.
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01-16-2020, 07:31 PM
#131
Burning Brakes
by summer 2021 i would think would be electric
01-16-2020, 07:58 PM
#132
I'm one that believes the Cayman will always have an ICE although an hybrid or even fully version may be available in the future but not soon.
As for summer 2021, that very possible looking on how behind schedule they delivering the GT4, Spyder and T versions. Also the GTS 4.0 just became available in Germany/Europe so an extra year for us to get it is totally in line.
As for summer 2021, that very possible looking on how behind schedule they delivering the GT4, Spyder and T versions. Also the GTS 4.0 just became available in Germany/Europe so an extra year for us to get it is totally in line.
01-16-2020, 09:46 PM
#134
Nordschleife Master
Its official:
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020...man-19733.html
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2020...man-19733.html
01-16-2020, 10:23 PM
#135
Burning Brakes
By official Porsche numbers, the manual 718 GTS 4.0 is 0.1 seconds quicker to 100 km/h than the manual 718 GTS 2.5T. The 2.5T motor takes time to spool up the turbos and hit the rated torque, and it's weaker than the 4.0T before it spools up. In first gear, the 4.0 could already exceed 4500 RPM by the time the turbos spool up on the 2.5T. Now, if you're cruising at 2K RPM in third gear, floor it, and wait for the turbos to spool up, the 2.5T might be slightly better. I've driven 718s and was never particularly impressed by usefulness of low end torque due to the turbo lag.