Turbo Jonny

My dealer in the UK told me that he thinks the S models will also be 6 cylinder.
Nice but expensive and if we get a true Brexit there will be a 10% tariff

NukeThemTillThey

I wish I had a decent relationship with a local dealer that would give me the truth (if they even know it), but the closest one burned his bridge with me during negotiations with his one year old new 718 CGTS a few months back. Where are all of you insiders getting your information...Porsche directly or dealers?

So in summary to recap and make sure I understand this, it sounds like the recent videos and speculation are true, there will be a 718 Cayman/Boxster with a 6 cyl engine thats not a GT4 or Spyder, but we don't know when or model year and will it be a new model (Touring) or an update to an existing S or GTS. And the factory has shutdown to retool for 2020 cars and/or move and/or focus for now on only Gt4/Spyders..at least for the US market? Amy I understanding this correctly?

CaymanSinAR

The only thing we know for sure right now is that Boxster/Cayman production is shut down. The reason for this is because 992 demand has exceeded expectations. Porsche will be manufacturing more 992s at the factory in Stuttgart. Boxster/Cayman production is being moved to a factory in Osnabrueck.

Porsche GT boss Andreas Preuninger has stated it was a massive effort to create the 9A2 Evo engine and that Porsche will use it in future models. But what we do not yet know.

Videos of non-GT4/Spyder 718 cars with the 9A2 Evo exhaust configuration have been floating around since late 2018. To this day will still don't have concrete information as to what those are or if they will ever be in the hands of the buying public. It seems they are too polished not to be, but that isn't a fact.

rasetsu

My guess is the GTS won't return in the US and we get the 6 cylinder GT4 Touring until the mainstream gets replaced with a hybrid.

More expensive for sure regardless of the country!

john981

Is interesting that both my threads are coming at this point together:

https://rennlist.com/forums/718-foru...der-again.html

1Carnut

For the last 40 + years, I have owned at least one Porsche (have 4 now), and the Taycan will be Porsche #44 for me. I have two 718 Caymans (a stock loaded 17 S my girlfriends car & a 2018 gearshift 18 with Cobb tune ICE downpipe and AWE exhaust + a few other things), and this is coming from an old dinosaur that used to think heated and cooled seats would be the beginning of the end of sports cars. The 718 is a great platform, the 4Cyl is not that bad of an engine, and it makes (this is especially true of the base car)the car feel way more balance than the previous generations. I am not as affected by what a car sounds like (I have a Maserati Granturismo MC that sounds amazing but it is a GT car), as some of you seem to be. Probably because I own or have owned a lot of cars that sound great but sound does not make the car drive or handle any better. There is a sigma for some attached to a 4cyl (if you ever drove my modified 4C you might begin to loose that sigma), that it somehow makes any car with one inferior. To those people, I say you are missing out on some great driving machines. I also have a one of kind 650hp 2312lb 997S (with no traction controls) with over 335K in modifications that has only 30% of its original parts. I designed many of the parts as one off's, and the local Porsche dealers refer to it as a kit car. I am also different than all of you, I am autistic which means I am unaffected by magazine or video reviews, or any other kind of marketing of advertising. I see cars merely as machines, machines I can make better. my California T is modified (to over 650 HP with Capristo exhaust products), and so is my AMG GTS, even my winter Porsche (991 C4S) is modified with cobb tune and PDK tune, and it sits in storage from April to November. In other words there is no such thing in my mind as the perfect machine (car) out of the box, but the 718 is pretty close, at least as a street car. I am taking someone shopping for a Porsche today, I think my local dealers have quite a few used 718's (there are 3 Porsche dealers with a 15 mile radius of my house) sitting on their lots, perhaps OP one of them might interest you.

BlueNorther

Wise words, Carnut. I agree the base 718 is a fine street car. The 4cyl is good engine (at least above 3K RPM when it really comes alive and starts to sound decent too). I've loved all my 4 Porsches, they all have strengths and weaknesses. Faster is not always better, depending on the application.

Turbo Jonny

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CaymanSinAR

$335K in modifications on a 997. What on earth have you done to it?!?!

You can’t drop a nugget like that and not follow up with pics and details!

ForeverCar

I wanted to order a 718 Cayman a few weeks ago and wasn’t able to. New US 718 orders will be GT4 and Spyder only for now. I’m hoping it will resume.

I had a 2018 Cayman S manual, sold it, and miss it a lot. I decided that I want a 2019 Cayman manual as I think it’s one of the most pure fun cars available. Luckily, my SA was able to find one that’s almost exactly how I wanted one configured. When it’s time to get the 718 GT4, I will have a hard time deciding whether to keep the Cayman or not. I know I’ll miss it if I sell it. Every time I catch myself wanting a 944 Turbo, I eventually come to my senses and realize the 718 Cayman is today’s “944 Turbo”.

To me, having a bit of “turbo lag” is great. In fact, I miss the turbo response of my 996 Turbo X50 (silly me, sold at the bottom of the market and can’t bring myself to buy another). I think the 718 Cayman will be just right. I’m to the point where outright speed & performance don’t matter much. I’m okay admitting that I’d enjoy my GT3 just as much (or maybe more) if it is slower (time to hide now).

1Carnut

The question should be what didn't I do to it. I took apart completely and than put it back together from the chassis (which is made of carbon fiber, titanium, and magnesium). It was a long process blew up a few transmissions and clutches, but it took a year and half, and a lot of patience since everything I was doing had not been done before. The seats, steering wheel, shifter, pretty much everything to touch inside the cabin other that the dash, was not in the car when it came from the factory. The engine was removed rebuilt and then supercharged. I had to make changes to the ECU, (that took about 7 months to get right). It was not something I recommend since the car is worthless to anyone but me.

alex2364

I talked to a senior sales person at my local dealer and he was told during training that regular 718 allocations will be available starting in April, including T models.

rasetsu

Will be 2020 models still? Deliveries wouldn't occur until July 2020. I'll take a CPO now instead of waiting nearly another year to get one then. Dealers will have the problem they had with 2019 Macans where they would be stuck with inventory cars stacked under the following model year in bounds.

CaymanSinAR

Similar to what I heard a couple of weeks ago. Sales manager said it would be Q2 2020 before any non-GT4/Spyder cars were available. He didn't say they *would* be available; just that if they were it would not be before Q2.

ZXTT95

This looks like the normal time frame for 2021s. From what I've noticed, the new model year configurator normally opens around April/May and the last of the old year cars are built in June.