Back to six cylinder?
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How about GT4 Touring?
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Remember too that at the lower end of the market ($60K+), Porsche is now facing competition from the new Z4/Supra. Someone who is young and got some hard earned money may be persuaded to check that BMW inline 6 instead. No matter how good the 718 chassis is, a prospective new owner will think twice about spending on a 4-cylinder vs that inline 6
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Remember too that at the lower end of the market ($60K+), Porsche is now facing competition from the new Z4/Supra. Someone who is young and got some hard earned money may be persuaded to check that BMW inline 6 instead. No matter how good the 718 chassis is, a prospective new owner will think twice about spending on a 4-cylinder vs that inline 6
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Remember too that at the lower end of the market ($60K+), Porsche is now facing competition from the new Z4/Supra. Someone who is young and got some hard earned money may be persuaded to check that BMW inline 6 instead. No matter how good the 718 chassis is, a prospective new owner will think twice about spending on a 4-cylinder vs that inline 6
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My prediction Looking at the bigger picture:
718 S and GTS will be 6 cylinder Turbo (Possibly a new version that is slated for the 992 base Carrera that will actually fit)
Base 718 will be the 4 cylinder Turbo (mirrors Macan model hierarchy)
GT4 and Spyder will continue with NA 6 cylinder
718 S and GTS will be 6 cylinder Turbo (Possibly a new version that is slated for the 992 base Carrera that will actually fit)
Base 718 will be the 4 cylinder Turbo (mirrors Macan model hierarchy)
GT4 and Spyder will continue with NA 6 cylinder
I’m gonna predict the same for the 718: base and S get the F4 and GTS and up gets 2 more cylinders.
The 718 GTS isn’t as big a difference from the S model, whereas in the other models (except Macan) there’s a lot more differences on GTS models.
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No-one is saying that the current 718 is not a fabulous car and better than it's predecessors. But wow, what about better still. It makes a lot of sense to have a 4-pot turbo entry level (like the Jaguar F-type) and then move up to 6 (not necessarily NA) for higher up the range. A 4-pot above 2 litres with a huge single turbo is unquestionably rough and vibratory and I've experienced no fuel economies in real world driving. And all this talk about torque, useful on the track perhaps or in a diesel truck. But I'll take the smooth sweetness of the old 6 any day. Put me in a new 718 full comfort version (not stripped down for tracking) and make fit some derivative of the 911's 3 litre small twin turbo (or even the old 981 na 3.4) and I'll pay any price. I'm sure Porsche could do this without undermining the 911's iconic status. After all, the 911 has become more of a big 2+2 Grand Tourer than Sports Car and Porsche will be in danger of losing market share in the sports segment against the likes of BMW's Z4 and Toyota's Supra. And God forbid when we get the next generation Jag F-type.
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And the mid-engine Corvette, depending on price. Not my cup of tea, but I'm all kinds of curious about how it turns out. You can bet your backside I'll be there the second one hits a showroom floor in town.
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Ah. Oops. It - the Last Pepper GTS - is KIA on the configurator so I couldn’t double-check the last iteration. The Turbo still has a V8 so I just assumed the previous GTS followed the ‘formula.’ My bad.
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If they put out a NA Cayman T it will have the same motor as the new GT4/Spyder, in a lower state of tune. There's no way a turbo 6 is going in the 718. If Porsche was ever going to do that, they never would have gone with the turbo 4.
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cayenne diverted from that model for the last version the GTS is a V6. The new GTS has yet to be announced, sure hope it’s a V8.
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Of course all that disappears when I put the top down and let it sing.
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Speculation on a niche low volume 718? No, not at all. If the GT4 clubsport has the 3.8 liter flat six, then offering a GT4 touring model makes sense. More units to cover the engineering cost. The MSRP on the GT4 Touring will likely be near the GT4 Club Sport.
Speculation on a flat six replacing non-GT 718's? Yes. Hell yes. But folks can dream? Or is it living in the past? Depends on the person.
Speculation on a flat six replacing non-GT 718's? Yes. Hell yes. But folks can dream? Or is it living in the past? Depends on the person.
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I never thought the video was of a Cayman T. It clearly had the exact same exhaust and rear valence of the Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder mules out there.
Looks like a GT4 Touring to me. This makes the most sense, given the popularity of the GT3 Touring.
I don't think the base/T/S/GTS models will be changing any time soon. The GT4 clearly has an N/A V8, most likely the 3.8 liter that's in the Clubsport.
They won't be switching to n/a flat sixes for non-GT models. The turbos aren't going anywhere. So what are they gonna do, drop in the 3 liter TT engine from the 992? No effing way would Porsche do that.
MAYBE they drop the displacement to the 2.5-2.7 liter range. But that still seems like a real stretch to me.
Looks like a GT4 Touring to me. This makes the most sense, given the popularity of the GT3 Touring.
I don't think the base/T/S/GTS models will be changing any time soon. The GT4 clearly has an N/A V8, most likely the 3.8 liter that's in the Clubsport.
They won't be switching to n/a flat sixes for non-GT models. The turbos aren't going anywhere. So what are they gonna do, drop in the 3 liter TT engine from the 992? No effing way would Porsche do that.
MAYBE they drop the displacement to the 2.5-2.7 liter range. But that still seems like a real stretch to me.