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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Hey guys, can anyone explain to me what benefit a RS pulley and belt conversion would do? How do I buy a pulley and belt? Should I even bother with this??
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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I think it has something to do with turning the fan at the same speed as the alternator, which = better cooling since the fan is turning faster.

Could be totally wrong though
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Search please.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Nice way to help, this seems to be the same answer you always give

I would like to know as well

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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The RS hub deletes the alt belt by locking the inner alt. shaft to the fan hub: this leaves the alt slightly underspeed - and allows deletion of the infernal roller/tension wazoo if a jumper wire is placed in its connector. The alt dash light would warn of belt loss, as the fan belt & pulley are retained.
Glad to have done the mod - the PO lost several belts with the conventional system - if the alt belt broke, which was the case, it would also take out the fan belt
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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There is quite a bit of info on this if one searched.....

But in short, you'll need part #'s 993.106.051.80-- impeller hub for the alternator and 993.102.050.40 pulley for the crankshaft.

In the event of belt failure, it is much easier to switch out the belt with the RS Pulley Setup. You got less weight as well due to the removal of several shims used with the dual belts. Engine seems to rev a bit more freely.

Downside ?--because the alternator is spinning at lower revs, some report having dimming interior lights at idle and when running radio, ac, headlights and fogs.

I do notice my interior lights dim somewhat at idle but have experienced no other adverse side effects.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kdurg
There is quite a bit of info on this if one searched.....

But in short, you'll need part #'s 993.106.051.80-- impeller hub for the alternator and 993.102.050.40 pulley for the crankshaft.

In the event of belt failure, it is much easier to switch out the belt with the RS Pulley Setup. You got less weight as well due to the removal of several shims used with the dual belts. Engine seems to rev a bit more freely.

Downside ?--because the alternator is spinning at lower revs, some report having dimming interior lights at idle and when running radio, ac, headlights and fogs.

I do notice my interior lights dim somewhat at idle but have experienced no other adverse side effects.
You don't need the crankshaft pulley, it is a very expensive option(~$400+ for just the pulley) for those deleting p/s or A/C, the upside is less drag at high speed
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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I would like to know as well

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You should do a search, too. It's the button at the center-right of the horizontal bar near the top of the page in between "New Posts" and "Quick Links."
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Thanks Noah for your help.

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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Garth S
The RS hub deletes the alt belt by locking the inner alt. shaft to the fan hub: this leaves the alt slightly underspeed - and allows deletion of the infernal roller/tension wazoo if a jumper wire is placed in its connector. The alt dash light would warn of belt loss, as the fan belt & pulley are retained.
Glad to have done the mod - the PO lost several belts with the conventional system - if the alt belt broke, which was the case, it would also take out the fan belt
The belt sensing roller is not a tensioning device and is deletable irrespective of retaining both belts (alt and fan) or going with one belt and the RS hub. I recommend leaving the belt sensor operational.

With the RS hub, the fan runs at the same speed while the alt runs somewhat slower, which may cause a charging deficiency if in stop-and-go traffic.

RS hub allows MUCH easier changing of belts.

Might rev a little more freely, but that doesn't translate into improved performance on the street.
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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The RS hub deletes the alt belt by locking the inner alt. shaft to the fan hub: this leaves the alt slightly underspeed - and allows deletion of the infernal roller/tension wazoo if a jumper wire is placed in its connector. The alt dash light would warn of belt loss, as the fan belt & pulley are retained.
Glad to have done the mod - the PO lost several belts with the conventional system - if the alt belt broke, which was the case, it would also take out the fan belt



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The belt sensing roller is not a tensioning device and is deletable irrespective of retaining both belts (alt and fan) or going with one belt and the RS hub. I recommend leaving the belt sensor operational......

With respect, I'm quite sure that I said "tension" .... not " tensioner" - in the absence of fan belt tension - sic - broken belt, the little (annoying) roller springs inward, opening the circuit to fire off the dash icon - a valuable function if the two belt system is in play
Second point, I would not agree with the view that this sensor is "deletable irrespective of retaining both belts ": were this done, there would be no indication to the driver of a broken fan belt - somewhat crucial information in an air cooled car ... no?
With the OEM two belt system, each belt has its alarm icon in event of failure: when adapting to the single belt RS hub system, the alternator icon may be chosen to alert of failure of that single/common fan belt. The roller device can clearly be left in place .... but one view is that it becomes a redundant warning device.
As its roller has a particular pathetic bearing prone to short life ..... leading to the arm and subsquent 'non - rolling' roller scrubbing against the back side of an otherwise healthy fan belt, I have chosen to terminate its redundancy. To leave this sensor in play can be a source of comfort to others ..... either way works
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah
You should do a search, too. It's the button at the center-right of the horizontal bar near the top of the page in between "New Posts" and "Quick Links."

I think this was before Noah figured out the search function. click on link below

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=13070

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Or you could get a life and quit trying to be the forum "hall monitor"

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Originally Posted by Noah
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Old Jun 3, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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I just posted this pic on my 3.8 conversion thread over on Channel 964.
This is part (or similar) (along with correct belt) you'll need.

Would have loved to have done the Smart Racing double pulley mod but a/c is yer friend in hot 'lanta.
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Originally Posted by Garth S
Second point, I would not agree with the view that this sensor is "deletable irrespective of retaining both belts ": were this done, there would be no indication to the driver of a broken fan belt - somewhat crucial information in an air cooled car ... no?
Assuming you mean when using the single belt system, the alternator light would illuminate indicating the belt has failed.
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