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Old 11-01-2007, 05:18 PM
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Some of you may remember I was going to try to unload engine parts a LONG while back and everyone kept asking about the engine number, and for the life of me I could not find it.
Between then and now I had my 944 blow it's engine and school.... blah blah blah, excuses.
Anyway I finally found a part with something that looks important.

I cleaned the part and took a picture.

I have no use for any of these parts. I more or less just want to sell them for more than they're worth in scrap metal (which is what my dad suggested I do with them).

I'll be cleaning parts up and selling them slowly here LOL. Or maybe quickly but it shouldn't take more than a month to get most of the stuff situated.
I know nothing about these engines, and any parts that no one wants I'm thinking of making furniture out of. LOL (I can't stand the idea of porsche parts going to scrap).

Now my dad told me these parts were from a 356, but that could even be wrong. Apparently he sold a set of high rise manifolds on ebay already? I don't know for sure.

Now if that number means something to someone I'll try to clean it up and get it out as fast as possible. Again I'm not looking to make much money but some of it will cost a lot to ship. I also have NO clue how much any of this stuff is worth. I'm just trying to find a loving home for these parts.
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Have a look here for more info....

http://www.356a.com/
Old 11-01-2007, 11:45 PM
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Hi there...the part you did clean is the generator stand and Yes...the engine # is the one (6 digits) after the "P"...by the way, 716299 is the engine for a 1964 356 C...How much you can get for these parts? Very hard to say by a generator stand...is it complete? The block has no cracks? Pretty hard to guess a $$$...good luck...
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I'm going out there to sort out the parts today and tomorrow.
Anything specific I should look for?
All the big parts are up on a shelf while all the small ones are in HEAVY boxes and buckets. I got the pistons and the air cooled cylinders out. They look pretty good but I'll clean those up to make sure they're no major flaws under the grease and carbon.
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Originally Posted by Calmchaos
I'm going out there to sort out the parts today and tomorrow.
Anything specific I should look for?
All the big parts are up on a shelf while all the small ones are in HEAVY boxes and buckets. I got the pistons and the air cooled cylinders out. They look pretty good but I'll clean those up to make sure they're no major flaws under the grease and carbon.

I'd clean and check the block for cracks (fingers crossed)...then I'd post engine # @ the 356 registry's "talklist"...who knows...you might be able to reunite body and soul there!
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I looked at the head today and there a about 5 fins that have broken in a couple places.
Nothing is cracked there is a little bit of rust in the end of the cylinder bores. It's really shallow, but I would rather leave it up to whomever wants it to clean the bores out. Unless someone thinks I should take some steel wool to it?
The engine ran but it was taken apart but was taken apart because it needed to be shipped (this was well over 20 years ago).
I don't exactly know what to look for that would be a block. the cylinder bores are individual sleeves. I have the crank but could someone who me what the actual block looks like.
I saw a pic of a 356 engine on ebay and it looked like the cylinder bores came right out of the tranny.
(Like I said I know NOTHING about these engines).
Thanks
Old 11-04-2007, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Calmchaos
I don't exactly know what to look for that would be a block.
Something like this...
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Oh wow... Ok...
I thought that was a transmission, sitting under all these parts. LOL I'll look at that tomorrow.
Thanks!
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in this thread you can see what it all looks like put together https://rennlist.com/forums/off-topic/389250-super-90-restoration-assembly.html

dont use steel wool.. be very gentile with the case too, especially the places where the bearings go. do not gauge, or be mean to them. there are only really a few bearing sizes to choose from with these cars, and if youre 3 over, youre screwed and your case is no good. be just as gentile with the crank.. cranks are the most expensive part of the type 616 engine used in 356s and 912s. do not be mean to the crank. if you want to be really good, have the parts sent out, checked and magnafluxed by a machine shop that specializes in porsches (DO NOT SEND IT TO A VW SHOP AS THEY WILL MESS IT UP)

the cylinders.. be gentile too.. but only out of curtosy to a possable new owner incase he wants them. hardly anyone uses cast iron cylanders anymore, as every one is going with more efficent, newly designed pistons and cylinders made of aircraft alloy type materials. in the end though, pistons and cylinders are easily replaced.
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Cool man thanks for all the info!

I think I wont touch anything. I'm not looking for max profit so I'll let the possible new owner take care of cleaning everything!

How much does it cost to have a crank cleaned and magnafluxed? So i can keep that in mind when selling it.
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Originally Posted by Calmchaos
Cool man thanks for all the info!

I think I wont touch anything. I'm not looking for max profit so I'll let the possible new owner take care of cleaning everything!

How much does it cost to have a crank cleaned and magnafluxed? So i can keep that in mind when selling it.
Don't expect too much $$$...a rebuilder might get interested but shipping will be a key factor...the only way to get top bucks would be to reunite engine/car...if car is still around...check the block...if cracked, forget about it...

I'd offer at the 356talklist...

Good luck...
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Ok here come the pics they are big so everything will be clear which is why I do not have them to auto open on this page as it would be too large.

Here is the bad:
A couple broken fins on the head
Rust on a few crank jornals (only 3 and it's really shallow).
I could only find one camshaft
I'm not sure if I have all the parts for a complete tranny (see pics).
There's a bit of rust in the cylinder bores
What I believe is the fuel pump is made in Brazil (I have NO idea. See pic)
The transmission internals are covered in a thin coat of rust.
I'm not sure if the carbs match.

Now the good news:
Everything I do have seems to be in working order
No cracks in the block
Most of the bearings were left in the block to reduce oxidation
The block numbers match

The last two pictures are of my random box of miscellaneous parts that I have no idea what they are.
I also have a rear axle that I didn't pull out and the axle casings (Both rusted).
I have both valve/cam covers but forgot to take pics of those.


http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ws8hgk&s=2 (Engine block from top).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10d5qvm&s=2 (Numbers on Block).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=izvk7o&s=2 (part number on Block).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rc3amh&s=2 (Under block).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ylmlnc&s=2 (Block walls).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=fdeckh&s=2 (Rust in bores).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1p8dj7&s=2 (Broken Fins).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=14uaqhg&s=2 (Cam pieces ).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6thgjr&s=2 (cam stuff closer).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=16k3wap&s=2 (Pieces of a carb)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=m96ccl&s=2 (carbs but not sure if these match ).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=znwolg&s=2 (Again).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2z5662e&s=2 (Crank end).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=o5qck4&s=2 (Crank front).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21c5tz5&s=2 (Crank back).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=21c5tz5&s=2 (Generator stand + flywheel).
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33wbp5x&s=2 (Head part number)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ps2734&s=2 (Heads)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2i7pe09&s=2 (Single piston)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=pwyrr&s=2 (All pistons and bores)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=157hzcn&s=2 (trans casing)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=spf688&s=2 (trans guts)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25z2vr6&s=2 (box of stuff)
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=23jr97l&s=2 (box of stuff view 2).

Phew... ok... that's all of them.
Now I will seriously consider any offers. I didn't want anyone to buy anything sight unseen. I want people to know exactly what they are getting here.

I would LIKE to make $700 for everything if anyone is interested in every part I have (including those not pictured).
If someone wants just the engine parts I would like $500.
And if the trans and axle parts are all you want $200 will be fine.
This does not include shipping.

But that being said I am open to all offers as I have no use for this stuff other than making it into furniture LOL.

I will also be sending this word for word over 356talk.

Thank you!
-Brett

Also if any of the pics don't work please let me know ASAP.
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Ok there is a sale pending.
But the guy wants to know if I have the front piece for the engine block. I have NO idea what that could look like.
Anyone help me out on that?
Thanks!

Or wait?
Is the generator stand the front piece? Is that what he could have been talking about?
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he must be talking about the 3rd piece? its the part on the bottom of the pic Pedro posted, between the crank and the generator stand in this pic

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Hi Brett...Harry is right on showing the third piece...it's like a "lid" to hold the 2 block halves together...

Your asking price is quite reasonable...the best channel to market your engine/tranny combo is the 356talklist...

I hope you can get a rebuider interested and willing to bring this one back to life...

Good luck for you...



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