1962 coupe for sale?
07-10-2007, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by art
I'm not a 356 owner or buyer (yet), but I think it is immoral to separate things like the special horn ring just to make a few extra dollars. Not illegal, just not nice. I think keeping the car complete will maximize its value, your karma and your relationship to the next owner. I suppose the next owner could just ***** it out, so you take your chances that you leave money on the table by being nice. Try to sell to someone who will appreciate it for what it is.
Is this particular case here...the horn ring (an optional) is probably worth between 5 and 10% of the car's value...I'm not encouraging the owner to part it out...just honestly informing him about what he has...the horn ring is irrelevant considering car's condition and it might complete an already restored car...
If you have an original Lietz luggage rack in perfect condition or a beautiful Blaupunkt Koln de Luxe...would you install in this car? I don't think so...
Just out of curiosity...these horn rings were not expensive options back in 1964, the problem is they are fragile and brake easily...that's why they are rather rare nowadays...
I hope the owner will able to find an enthusiast crazy about a horn ring to complete his car and also a courageous hobbyist to embrace this project...I don't feel "immoral" for thinking like this...
07-10-2007, 06:01 PM
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To each his own, live and let live, etc, etc. I just wanted to vent a peeve and not get too flamed out. I'm sure I could have sold all of the special pieces that came off my 914-6 when I changed things to suit my taste, but chose to keep them and give them to the next owner. I can only hope he does the same, or puts them back where they came from and then he could sell 'my' suspension, injection, seats, etc separately! I know I left money on the table, but I felt good about it.
I love the car in this is discussion by the way. I would try to keep it as a 'rat' driver if it was possible.
I love the car in this is discussion by the way. I would try to keep it as a 'rat' driver if it was possible.
07-11-2007, 02:55 PM
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Those are drm brake wheels. Definitely not disc brake wheels with different hubcaps. The wheel slots are completely different from drum to disc brake. The badge has been added. I vote T6 model B , most likely 1963. By the way all 356's have dual carbs. Get the engine number, if you are lucky maybe it's a super 90.
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07-11-2007, 11:44 PM
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My vote is that it is definately a '64-'65 C/SC as the lower dash arrangement and the fresh air lever are out of a "C" car. Plus the wiper switch and headlight switch are placed where the "C" cars had them, not where the "B" cars had them. What likely happened is that the disc brakes were removed for whatever reason (put on a race car, swapped for the drums + cash, etc) and replaced with the drums. Much more likely than welding on the lower dash area, moving dash switches (and filling in holes and repainting the dash) and replacing the fresh air control with a later unit.
The VIN will tell all: Reutter 126001 and above, Karmann 215001 and above will mean C/SC coupe. Anything below that means T-6 B.
Cheers,
Sebastian Gaeta
'65 C coupe 222053
'64 C cabriolet 159286
The VIN will tell all: Reutter 126001 and above, Karmann 215001 and above will mean C/SC coupe. Anything below that means T-6 B.
Cheers,
Sebastian Gaeta
'65 C coupe 222053
'64 C cabriolet 159286
Last edited by SPG356; 07-12-2007 at 12:00 AM.
07-12-2007, 02:28 PM
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I totally agree with Sebastian...clipping a C's dash to install on a B car, makes no sense...the "back to drum brakes" theory is more likely in my opinion...
The owner could inform vin # and solve this mistery!
The owner could inform vin # and solve this mistery!
Originally Posted by SPG356
My vote is that it is definately a '64-'65 C/SC as the lower dash arrangement and the fresh air lever are out of a "C" car. Plus the wiper switch and headlight switch are placed where the "C" cars had them, not where the "B" cars had them. What likely happened is that the disc brakes were removed for whatever reason (put on a race car, swapped for the drums + cash, etc) and replaced with the drums. Much more likely than welding on the lower dash area, moving dash switches (and filling in holes and repainting the dash) and replacing the fresh air control with a later unit.
The VIN will tell all: Reutter 126001 and above, Karmann 215001 and above will mean C/SC coupe. Anything below that means T-6 B.
Cheers,
Sebastian Gaeta
'65 C coupe 222053
'64 C cabriolet 159286
The VIN will tell all: Reutter 126001 and above, Karmann 215001 and above will mean C/SC coupe. Anything below that means T-6 B.
Cheers,
Sebastian Gaeta
'65 C coupe 222053
'64 C cabriolet 159286
07-12-2007, 03:41 PM
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"What likely happened is that the disc brakes were removed for whatever reason (put on a race car, swapped for the drums + cash, etc) and replaced with the drums."
concur. one shouldn't be too suprised about anything that's changed on a 356, no matter how strange (just consider the owners...).
VIN plate, body builder ID & color code plate, tranny & engine #s, serial #s stamped on body parts, Kardex or COA (when complete & accurate) - all these are critical to establishing the truth of a specific car & much is available before one buys.
concur. one shouldn't be too suprised about anything that's changed on a 356, no matter how strange (just consider the owners...).
VIN plate, body builder ID & color code plate, tranny & engine #s, serial #s stamped on body parts, Kardex or COA (when complete & accurate) - all these are critical to establishing the truth of a specific car & much is available before one buys.
07-17-2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by speedster 72
hellow out there, all sounds interesting.i thought some 356s came with 5 digit chasis numbers the quote from sebastian said 6
confused ?
confused ?
5 digits 10001 - 83791 (1951 - mid 1957)
6 digits 100001 - 222580 (mid 1957 - 1965)
But the last one left Germany as # 162175...a Police customized Cabriolet
PS. Roadsters and Speedster kept the 5 digitis VIN until 1961.
Last edited by Pedro356C; 07-17-2007 at 12:53 PM.
