Seinfeld sold a fake Porsche?
02-02-2019, 09:52 AM
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Seinfeld sold a fake Porsche?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...5-million.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...201-story.html
first time posting in this forum, but figured it was news worthy. Second article makes it sound like Seinfeld and his team were duped as well. I guess sometimes even the “experts” can get fooled.
-Brian
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...201-story.html
first time posting in this forum, but figured it was news worthy. Second article makes it sound like Seinfeld and his team were duped as well. I guess sometimes even the “experts” can get fooled.
-Brian
02-02-2019, 02:48 PM
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Jerry Seinfeld sued for selling fake
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainmen...ged-to-be-fake
I would like to know the details of why they suspect it is a fake. I wouldn't think Jerry would be knowingly be involved.
https://www.goodingco.com/press/good...sland-auction/
I would like to know the details of why they suspect it is a fake. I wouldn't think Jerry would be knowingly be involved.
https://www.goodingco.com/press/good...sland-auction/
02-02-2019, 03:07 PM
#5
He bought it from European Collectibles and it had been in the market for a while. As I recall, the auction description pretty much followed European Collectibles representations. I also remember a Kardex for it with no color listed, so Auratium Green was as good as any other.
02-02-2019, 03:41 PM
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Hard to unwind a good faith deal absent some information. If, as per the Daily News article, it is the absence of restoration photos, surely Monteverdi knew that when he bought the car. Hard to imagine Seinfeld is at fault. If anyone, it is potentially European Collectibles.
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02-02-2019, 04:08 PM
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Auction sales are always “as-is,” with no guarantee from the auction house or seller that the description is accurate.
If Seinfeld buys the car back, it will only be because he is a nice guy. My guess is the lawsuit will get thrown out.
Read the terms the bidders agree to: https://www.goodingco.com/content/do...pplication.pdf
DESCRIPTIONS OF PROPERTY
All written and oral descriptions of the Vehicles or related information, including, but not limited to, descriptions in any catalogue or other Auction-related materials, postings, announcements, press releases, advertisements, any bill of sale or invoice, and any statements or affirmations made by or on behalf of Gooding prior to or at the Auction, including, without limitation, any reference to a Vehicle as being a particular model, make, or type or the rarity or uniqueness or provenance thereof, are only statements of opinion and not statements of fact and do not, and shall not under any circumstances be deemed to, create or constitute representations or warranties of any kind by Gooding or the Seller. Each bidder and Buyer hereby acknowledges and agrees that they are not entitled to rely, and they each agree not to rely, upon any of such descriptions, statements, affirmations, information or materials for any purpose, and that none of the foregoing are a part of the basis of the bargain of the purchase and sale of any Vehicle nor do or shall any of the foregoing supersede or modify any of the General Conditions.
If Seinfeld buys the car back, it will only be because he is a nice guy. My guess is the lawsuit will get thrown out.
Read the terms the bidders agree to: https://www.goodingco.com/content/do...pplication.pdf
DESCRIPTIONS OF PROPERTY
All written and oral descriptions of the Vehicles or related information, including, but not limited to, descriptions in any catalogue or other Auction-related materials, postings, announcements, press releases, advertisements, any bill of sale or invoice, and any statements or affirmations made by or on behalf of Gooding prior to or at the Auction, including, without limitation, any reference to a Vehicle as being a particular model, make, or type or the rarity or uniqueness or provenance thereof, are only statements of opinion and not statements of fact and do not, and shall not under any circumstances be deemed to, create or constitute representations or warranties of any kind by Gooding or the Seller. Each bidder and Buyer hereby acknowledges and agrees that they are not entitled to rely, and they each agree not to rely, upon any of such descriptions, statements, affirmations, information or materials for any purpose, and that none of the foregoing are a part of the basis of the bargain of the purchase and sale of any Vehicle nor do or shall any of the foregoing supersede or modify any of the General Conditions.
02-02-2019, 11:29 PM
#9
Whats the Deal with Jerry Seinfeld
Is he running out of money ? Is he trying to get richer than he already is, at the expense of unwitting sports car squirrels ? Is he trying to make a bid to buy Carfax ?
And why do they call it Car fax ? Shouldnt it be CAR FACTS , like the history, or the facts of the car ? Not FAX like a fax machine that transmits copies of documents.
And why do they call it Car fax ? Shouldnt it be CAR FACTS , like the history, or the facts of the car ? Not FAX like a fax machine that transmits copies of documents.
02-03-2019, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by okbarnett
Is he running out of money ? Is he trying to get richer than he already is, at the expense of unwitting sports car squirrels ? Is he trying to make a bid to buy Carfax ?
And why do they call it Car fax ? Shouldnt it be CAR FACTS , like the history, or the facts of the car ? Not FAX like a fax machine that transmits copies of documents.
And why do they call it Car fax ? Shouldnt it be CAR FACTS , like the history, or the facts of the car ? Not FAX like a fax machine that transmits copies of documents.
As for the Carfax name, pretty sure it originated when fax machines and receiving faxes was somewhat novel and Carfax used fax machines to transmit their reports. Outdated, yes, but perfectly logical for the time.
02-04-2019, 02:16 AM
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used cars are usually sold where is as is.
and to play in this $$$ range, buyers generally bring in an ARMY of experts to authenticate.
so even if it's fake (and I am NOT saying it is), buyers expert should have figured it out at inspection.
and to play in this $$$ range, buyers generally bring in an ARMY of experts to authenticate.
so even if it's fake (and I am NOT saying it is), buyers expert should have figured it out at inspection.
