I need your HELP for my next SPB race!.....I need to find 2 secs. ......
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I need your HELP for my next SPB race!.....I need to find 2 secs. ......
I humbly ask for advice on how to gain 2 more seconds at NJMP Tbolt for next club race......
Be frank and critical, I am asking for 2 seconds to be competitive, not trying to shatter the class record (I am being respectful to the top runners).....
Be frank and critical, I am asking for 2 seconds to be competitive, not trying to shatter the class record (I am being respectful to the top runners).....
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I'm no expert but you are coasting too much before 4 (the fast right turn at the end of the back straight) - stay on the gas longer and then brake. In the Octopus, try not hugging the curbing on the right - instead turn in at mid track and let the car slide to the apex. See if you're faster.
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Last edited by Frank 993 C4S; 07-30-2016 at 11:47 PM.
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Less Brake More Gas?
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To much brake in 1
Flat through 2
Flat through 3
In the gas longer at 4
Gas sooner at 5
To much brake at 6
Octopus goes wrong at entry
But nice and smooth which is key in SPB. Try to drive with less steering corrections as this scrubs speed
Flat through 2
Flat through 3
In the gas longer at 4
Gas sooner at 5
To much brake at 6
Octopus goes wrong at entry
But nice and smooth which is key in SPB. Try to drive with less steering corrections as this scrubs speed
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Agree with Matt. Some more thoughts....
If you are on the gas before the apex in general you are overslowing the car (i.e. turn 1).
If you aren't catching the car from time to time (in SPB in particular) then your corner entry speeds are too low. At 9 tenths the car is a pussycat. At 10 tenths the car wants to bite you every time on corner entry. Sometimes the difference is just 2-3 mph.
It is a) line precision, b) avoiding mistakes, and c) the management of the rear end of the car at corner entry (through alignment, setup, and driver input) that separates the pack.
Take bigger bites of apex curbing. If you are leaving a foot on the table then that is wasted distance travelled. SPB suspension is soft and can manage curbing.
Take a fraction of a breath more before turn in at 3 and then take a bigger bite of the apex curbing. Then you can release the car from the arc. Notice in the video that you still have steering input at track out on 3. You are using the steering wheel as a brake pedal beyond the apex - subtle, but these details shave tenths.
Turn in earlier than you think (by 1 meter increments) for 4 combined with a bigger bite of apex curbing, grow some ***** and get on the gas and stay on the gas here and run the car deep to the outside. You don't have to arc the car back to mid-track in setup for 5. 25% is fine and then get two wheels up on the apex curbing for 5.
The biggest opportunity to make speed at NJMP is turns 1-4. You need to imagine sending speed from 1 through to corner entry of 5 like a big slingshot.
The rest is up to you
If you are on the gas before the apex in general you are overslowing the car (i.e. turn 1).
If you aren't catching the car from time to time (in SPB in particular) then your corner entry speeds are too low. At 9 tenths the car is a pussycat. At 10 tenths the car wants to bite you every time on corner entry. Sometimes the difference is just 2-3 mph.
It is a) line precision, b) avoiding mistakes, and c) the management of the rear end of the car at corner entry (through alignment, setup, and driver input) that separates the pack.
Take bigger bites of apex curbing. If you are leaving a foot on the table then that is wasted distance travelled. SPB suspension is soft and can manage curbing.
Take a fraction of a breath more before turn in at 3 and then take a bigger bite of the apex curbing. Then you can release the car from the arc. Notice in the video that you still have steering input at track out on 3. You are using the steering wheel as a brake pedal beyond the apex - subtle, but these details shave tenths.
Turn in earlier than you think (by 1 meter increments) for 4 combined with a bigger bite of apex curbing, grow some ***** and get on the gas and stay on the gas here and run the car deep to the outside. You don't have to arc the car back to mid-track in setup for 5. 25% is fine and then get two wheels up on the apex curbing for 5.
The biggest opportunity to make speed at NJMP is turns 1-4. You need to imagine sending speed from 1 through to corner entry of 5 like a big slingshot.
The rest is up to you
Last edited by jdistefa; 07-31-2016 at 11:48 AM.
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^^^what the two Matts said^^^
Paolo, enough f*cking around. HIRE A COACH.
Paolo, enough f*cking around. HIRE A COACH.
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After just having spent two days at T-bolt (in a 981CS), all of these comments and suggestions are incredibly helpful. Thank you.
My best times were in the (not stellar) low 1:40s and I had a chance to drive a session with a particular GTC class record holder riding right seat who said he was surprised the times were not ~five seconds faster, so obviously I am scrubbing (and or not gaining) time in many small increments, probably all over the track. Don't want to post video and tread on OP's thread but perhaps I will after I return to NJMP in mid August.
Thanks again for the great comments (...which, BTW, could be enhanced with more explanation of "it all going wrong at the beginning of the Octopus," or whatever those brief comments were).
My best times were in the (not stellar) low 1:40s and I had a chance to drive a session with a particular GTC class record holder riding right seat who said he was surprised the times were not ~five seconds faster, so obviously I am scrubbing (and or not gaining) time in many small increments, probably all over the track. Don't want to post video and tread on OP's thread but perhaps I will after I return to NJMP in mid August.
Thanks again for the great comments (...which, BTW, could be enhanced with more explanation of "it all going wrong at the beginning of the Octopus," or whatever those brief comments were).