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Old 02-17-2017, 01:32 AM
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I'mgetting into tuning as a hobby, is anyone in the GTA using KESS software or Cobb accessport
Old 02-17-2017, 12:14 PM
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I am getting cobb for spring.
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
I am getting cobb for spring.
Sounds great Danny, let me know when you get it.
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Don't bother with Kess / Alientech. It does not hold a candle to anything Cobb related.
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I was going to pull the yrigger on the KESS toolsas it covers more cars. Please elaborate on the difference.
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I have COBB with my Gt3RS
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Originally Posted by Mark Lue
I was going to pull the yrigger on the KESS toolsas it covers more cars. Please elaborate on the difference.
The user interface and the software is some of the worst I've used in the industry. (And I've probably tuned over 50+ different systems)

In most cases only a handful of HEX tables are decoded and often times are mislabeled (both by name and scale) making the tunability of the system almost non-existent.

Don't even get me started on flash times and flash procedures.

The only way Kess has any real value is if you get connected with someone like Viezu who can sell you "tunes" for $100 because thinking that this system will enable you to tune on the fly or fine tune anything couldn't be farther from the truth.

If you actually want to tune a car from scratch, you had better set aside a week on the dyno with Kess.

All of the opposite is true for Cobb. Period.
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Good to know.

Cobb doesn't cover many cars, what other Tuning Tool(s) would you suggest ?
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I know you want to get into this as a hobby, but what does that actually mean to you?

Why do you need a system that enables access to a number of different cars?

In my opinion, the best thing to do if you want to get into tuning is to NOT start with a system than let's you manipulate OEM hardware, but get a aftermarket ECU that has good software and real-time tuning, install it on your personal vehicle and just go drive. Your ability to learn in this environment will be so much greater from a support standpoint, a usability standpoint, a cause-effect feedback loop standpoint, a convenience standpoint, and likely a cost standpoint.
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Originally Posted by Happy911
....Why do you need a system that enables access to a number of different cars?....
...so I have a tool that can work on different cars, Cobb is very specialized and only support certain models, none of which I own. Can you recommend an aftermarket ECU that has good software and real-time tuning?
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Expect to pay a few grand for any of the following systems but all do what they say they can do (which is not always the case for some aftermarket ECUs)

- Haltech (Platinum Pro or Elite)
- AEM (Infinity or Series II)
- Link / VIPEC

Also, if you want to get some more structured learning on the subject, check out efi101.com and/or High Performance Academy. I did all of their courses about a decade ago but would only imagine they've gotten better. Both places are good for foundational knowledge.
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Originally Posted by Happy911
Expect to pay a few grand for any of the following systems but all do what they say they can do (which is not always the case for some aftermarket ECUs)

- Haltech (Platinum Pro or Elite)
- AEM (Infinity or Series II)
- Link / VIPEC

Also, if you want to get some more structured learning on the subject, check out efi101.com and/or High Performance Academy. I did all of their courses about a decade ago but would only imagine they've gotten better. Both places are good for foundational knowledge.
Thanks I look into them.
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
I am getting cobb for spring.
Danny,

Is your car stock. What stage are you aiming for with Cobb? Any bolt ons planned?



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