petee_c

why all the hate for forced induction?

I'd take forced induction (ie variable gate turbo) over:

displacement - fuel prices; fuel prices
variable cam (vtec, vario cam) -rev the snot out of it
hybrid - not quite sold on it yet - complexities of a 'new' design

anyday.

Pags993

Lots of fans still around with deep pockets

boman993

+1

Turbo tech has come a long way since the 80s.

ronnie993tt

This should make Chevy (Corvette & Camaro), Ford (Mustang) and others that can continue with high N/A displacement motors happy exxxcccept, The Donald may kill all of this electric car nonsense as part of the deal to keep jobs at home by reducing domestic manufacturer costs. With the exception of Toyota, manufacturers are loosing $10K to $15K US per electric car and probably not far off that for hybrids. I think the deal is already cut.

Wild Weasel

Don't ever discover what makes naturally aspirated performance engines better. You'll be happier.

You're welcome.

Imo000

Wait until you own one that's old and you'll understand it really fast!
I like forced induction too but the sound and simplicity of a large displacement N/A engine is really something else.

LastMezger

No reason in particular other than ****ty throttle response, ****ty sound and all-round ****tier.

Could just be me though.

Ronan

Well naturally a big change like this will have the Porsche world in a froth of argument. Every generation has its fans. Aircooled versus water , Mezger vs 9A1,PDK vs stick,it will continue.

Its appears as if the 992 will be the first 911 to have a shared platform that will also be used for the Boxster and also other VAG marques. This is a trend that does worry me a bit. Like BMW M cars that once had unique M engines, Porsche had already gone away from Mezger for the GT cars for instance. Too much sharing makes the cars feel a bit less special to me but maybe it's just nostalgia.

Greg981

I understand your point but to me having a unique platform helps to justify the premium cost of these cars. Not sure I could get past that. Before i purchased my first Boxster (2004) I looked at a 370Z. What turned me off was it shared its platform with a sedan and a suv. No thanks.

ronnie993tt

I don't have a preference between N/A or turbo and for that reason will generally have both. Point may be that they should continue to offer both.

Ronan

Well, the problem is that they are likely to put their development dollars where they get performance. We can see today that something like the current GTS will outperform a 997 GT3 for instance.. With the continuing ability to push more performance through the turbo engines they will have a sales challenge in a lower performance engine with presumably inferior fuel economy. I would think the business case would be challenging.

Thus I would bet a few runout ( and expensive) limited runs will be about the end of it.

Imo000

The EPA's fleet rating is what drives all these turbo cars popping up everywhere nowdays.

jumper5836

With the variable compression engine that Porsche has patented. The new engine will adjust the compression ratio, giving higher compression off-boost silmar to the NA engine, and then reducing the compression as boost pressure rises.

The future will be no need for a NA engine unless your goal is to have less power, less torque and worse fuel efficiency.

Imo000

I disagree. All this this technology makes the engines extremely complex and expensive to produce. There will always be a market for N/A engines unless you are only talking about Porsche.

jumper5836

Ya I was talking Porsche engines and it future with a variable compression engine that is well suited to using Turbos.