Head Light Covers/Rings - Can someone please explain
#16
people give the 996 a hard time over headlight design....let go of scrutiny over 997 internal hardware quality degrade or 991 lack of feel.....
#17
I believe we have touch on a very sensitive topic with 996 owners. My suggestion is to let the depreciation continue to fall so that we may acquire a 996 911 winter beater by the fall of 2017...lol.
I have already looked at a 2000 Carrera 4 at an auction for $17k with only 90,000km....going to be great!
I have already looked at a 2000 Carrera 4 at an auction for $17k with only 90,000km....going to be great!
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Back when my brother purchased his first 996, I wasn't too fond of the headlight design. However, after seeing the car a few times, I really started to like them. Although they deviate from the "traditional" headlight design, I think they look cool and unique. I would never even consider putting covers on the lights to make them look like something they're not.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
#19
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Those covers look terrible IMHO.
If you don't like the 996 headlights, don't buy one.
If you don't like the interior quality of the 997, don't buy one.
If you don't like the bizarro ergonomics of the 993, don't buy one.
If you don't like the size of the 991, don't buy one.
See how that works?
Isn't freedom of choice and personal taste a wonderful thing?
If you don't like the 996 headlights, don't buy one.
If you don't like the interior quality of the 997, don't buy one.
If you don't like the bizarro ergonomics of the 993, don't buy one.
If you don't like the size of the 991, don't buy one.
See how that works?
Isn't freedom of choice and personal taste a wonderful thing?
#20
I haven't got a problem with the headlights themselves. I think the cover-up treatments are fugly.
This could be the entry level Porsche down the road much like the 914. Except waaay more power!
I would buy one at current price levels if I knew who did the ISM work.
This could be the entry level Porsche down the road much like the 914. Except waaay more power!
I would buy one at current price levels if I knew who did the ISM work.
#21
Captain Obvious
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The Boxter is the entry lever Porsche.
#22
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Those covers look terrible IMHO.
If you don't like the 996 headlights, don't buy one.
If you don't like the interior quality of the 997, don't buy one.
If you don't like the bizarro ergonomics of the 993, don't buy one.
If you don't like the size of the 991, don't buy one.
See how that works?
Isn't freedom of choice and personal taste a wonderful thing?
If you don't like the 996 headlights, don't buy one.
If you don't like the interior quality of the 997, don't buy one.
If you don't like the bizarro ergonomics of the 993, don't buy one.
If you don't like the size of the 991, don't buy one.
See how that works?
Isn't freedom of choice and personal taste a wonderful thing?
So you're saying that the 964 is the ideal Porsche?
#24
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Interestingly, the 964 was the unwanted 911 with similar criticism of it's looks as the 996. And up until 6-7 years ago, prices were really depressed. Then people discovered them as the "cheap" Porsches and the rest is history. Now they are coveted.
And we all know there is no such thing as a cheap or affordable Porsche in the end. You can pay up front or you can pay much more later in repairs on that neglected bargain Porsche.
Smoking deals on 996's are for real beaters, the really good ones (clean, no issues, interesting options, special models) have bottomed and are slowly appreciating.
And we all know there is no such thing as a cheap or affordable Porsche in the end. You can pay up front or you can pay much more later in repairs on that neglected bargain Porsche.
Smoking deals on 996's are for real beaters, the really good ones (clean, no issues, interesting options, special models) have bottomed and are slowly appreciating.
#26
Interestingly, the 964 was the unwanted 911 with similar criticism of it's looks as the 996. And up until 6-7 years ago, prices were really depressed. Then people discovered them as the "cheap" Porsches and the rest is history. Now they are coveted.
And we all know there is no such thing as a cheap or affordable Porsche in the end. You can pay up front or you can pay much more later in repairs on that neglected bargain Porsche.
Smoking deals on 996's are for real beaters, the really good ones (clean, no issues, interesting options, special models) have bottomed and are slowly appreciating.
And we all know there is no such thing as a cheap or affordable Porsche in the end. You can pay up front or you can pay much more later in repairs on that neglected bargain Porsche.
Smoking deals on 996's are for real beaters, the really good ones (clean, no issues, interesting options, special models) have bottomed and are slowly appreciating.
964 was considered a dog with fleas for many years. Now I would give my left nut for one. All of the cars mentioned here are on a different level than anything else out there.
#27
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The 964 was an underdog because early ones gave the line a bad rap due to oil leaks where a head gasket should have been, distributor killing ozone, disintegrating rubber centered clutches, etc. - not looks. The 959 derived "Sputnik" awd system is a whole other issue. Once the market realized this stuff, other than the awd, could and had been fixed, and 993 prices skyrocketed, 964 prices started going up. The RS America is one of my favourite 911's but it's rarity has resulted in huge appreciation - though they have fallen back a bit lately.