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Old 05-27-2015, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
Keep hunting.
Look for a 1 owner 2005-2008 carrera S and you will be fine.
Well it turns out the Carrera S with the 3.8 has both the ims and scored cyclinders (as per the comments on this thread).
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Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
I think you should be looking at a nice safe Lexus.
hahaha, yeah you might be right. But I'll probably wait it out until I can find an 2009 or somehow find a 996tt.
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Originally Posted by dualexhaust
Well it turns out the Carrera S with the 3.8 has both the ims and scored cyclinders (as per the comments on this thread).
dont worry about the comments. There are 100s of these car still on the road.
Do a forum search for ims in 997.1 CARRERA and decide for yourself.
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
dont worry about the comments. There are 100s of these car still on the road.
Do a forum search for ims in 997.1 CARRERA and decide for yourself.
Well with a 8-10% failure rate according to some, it would ruin the ownership feel and not prepared to risk it. It sure is a sad feeling....
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Just on this Canadian forum which is mainly the GTA forum, there's at least one scored cylinder every several months from a M96/M97 engine. Sure some of those cars have been daily driven in the winter (very cold start ups) or tracked (high temps) which increase the probability. So if you're worried, go with a 996/997 Turbo or 987.2 Cayman / 997.2 Carrera. Granted the cost between a loaded 997.1 and 997.2 is about 20-30k which should be enough to get the engine rebuilt properly with good liners so you wouldn't experience that issue again.
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Being as risk averse as you are, I would stay away from the smaller diameter single-row IMS 911s eventhough only the odd one in that category fails (likely more around a couple of cars for every 100), but I would not hesitate to purchase a larger diameter IMS 997 from 06 to 08 and save 20k or so from 09s.

Simply do not drive like you stole it once you have it. They are beautiful cars to drive (handling is always divine) even in a non-spirited attitude and this way you diminish wear and the risk of negative occurrences.

In other words, you would drive a great machine in accordance to your risk averseness and as such make it last longer and still get tremendous enjoyment.
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according to Jake Ruby there are more than 30 known causes of catastrophic failure on the m96/97 engines....
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I'm sure he needed to hear this, Turbo!
Coming from a Turbo driver, do I detect a small amount of condescension?
They are not all that bad if you treat them respectfully!
The low probability of occurrences is heavily on your side.
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
according to Jake Ruby there are more than 30 known causes of catastrophic failure on the m96/97 engines....
Jake Raby agrees.
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Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
Jake Raby agrees.
If you want a bulletproof car, get a NICE and taken care of 996TT. Don't look for a cheap one, it will cost you down the road.
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Originally Posted by JMLavoie
I'm sure he needed to hear this, Turbo!
Coming from a Turbo driver, do I detect a small amount of condescension?
They are not all that bad if you treat them respectfully!
The low probability of occurrences is heavily on your side.
he basically said his budget cannot handle an engine rebuild, so why try to convince him anything other than facts...not lie to him and say low probability of occurrences.
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Originally Posted by BioBanker
If you want a bulletproof car, get a NICE and taken care of 996TT. Don't look for a cheap one, it will cost you down the road.
I think that is again going to be OUB (out of budget).
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Originally Posted by dualexhaust
Well with a 8-10% failure rate according to some, it would ruin the ownership feel and not prepared to risk it. It sure is a sad feeling....
Ok, well that rules out the gamble with the 2005-2008 Carreras.

Personally, i would only consider 2009-2013 DFI carreras but alas, they are out of your price range.

If you are not going to look at 964 or 993, then i strongly suggest you find a 2010-2012 Cayman S in $50s to $60s or find a Boxster S in the $50s....

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Originally Posted by BioBanker
If you want a bulletproof car, get a NICE and taken care of 996TT. Don't look for a cheap one, it will cost you down the road.
I'm not sure I fully agree with that. Cost alone is no indicator of being well taken care of. There are quite a few low mileage garage queens which will ha e had the bare minimum done in maintenance. They will look great and command top dollar but the minute you start to use it frequently (with cars like that ) the minute issues start to reveal themselves.

Old rubber and plastic is old rubber and plastic regardless of use and mileage. It still breaks down just sitting there.

Imo I'd rather have a car with some miles on it/that got used. It will cost a bit less but the chances are higher it was actually taken care of and has had key areas addressed in maintenance.

Unless you are looking for a garage queen yourself. Then buy the most expensive ,low mileage one you can find.


996tt prices seem to have stabilized /gone up just a tiny bit. Of course exceptions exist on either end of the scale.
You are buying a used german sports car so one should expect maintenance will be needed regardless of price,mileage and history.
996tt are great cars. I'd buy it to drive and not worry about future appreciation. NOBODY can predict that kind of thing.
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Originally Posted by breakfast
I'm not sure I fully agree with that. Cost alone is no indicator of being well taken care of. There are quite a few low mileage garage queens which will ha e had the bare minimum done in maintenance. They will look great and command top dollar but the minute you start to use it frequently (with cars like that ) the minute issues start to reveal themselves.

Old rubber and plastic is old rubber and plastic regardless of use and mileage. It still breaks down just sitting there.

Imo I'd rather have a car with some miles on it/that got used. It will cost a bit less but the chances are higher it was actually taken care of and has had key areas addressed in maintenance.

Unless you are looking for a garage queen yourself. Then buy the most expensive ,low mileage one you can find.


996tt prices seem to have stabilized /gone up just a tiny bit. Of course exceptions exist on either end of the scale.
You are buying a used german sports car so one should expect maintenance will be needed regardless of price,mileage and history.
996tt are great cars. I'd buy it to drive and not worry about future appreciation. NOBODY can predict that kind of thing.
Well said.


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