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Cafe, ya ya blah blah. Manuals going bye bye, everyone running a turbo now. BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING

Pags993

CAFE means lots of changes coming for all makers. We are in the final stages of testing a 0W16 grade engine oil for mass market that will be driven by OEM factory fill.

Dale Gribble

If all Porsche's are turbo, no turbos are special?
They'll have a bit more of a brand/marketing issue to overcome than other manufacturers do in that respect.

Ronan

I do think all will be turbo. No idea what happens to the GT3/RS, but I think we are at end stages now. Manual is history,so will N/A engines. Many icons have changed..BMW M cars,the open-gate Ferraris,the Mezgers, and a host of other things...all gone.
The market is also changing. People say they want stick shifts, but the reality is that its only a small minority. Like many of these things, the internet is abuzz,but out in dealer land, people will by and large go for the new technologies and as many gadgets as they can afford.

Smitten

All 4 Macans are turbos, and Porsche has been able to separate them from one another. I think it's all about the marketing.

Pags993

^ well said but I for one really fear the long term affordability factor of these future computers on wheels once OEM warranty is done. Lets just say my 993 will be in my possession for a very long time

911 Rod

The line in the sand between classic Porches and new ones will be deeper.
Yes we all play together, but it is a different type of enthusiast that drives an air-cooled compared to the new technology, drives itself, Porsche.

StanThePorscheFan

So what would the new variations be called?

Turbo
Turbo S
Turbo 4S
Turbo GTS
Turbo GT3
Turbo GT3 RS
Turbo Turbo
Turbo Turbo S
Turbo Turbo Turbo!
E Turbo Hybrid GTS

I just made myself wanna puke

Bacura

Like the Macan, I am guessing the names won't change even though all models are turbo. In any case, my current 911 will most likely be my last.

jumper5836

I'd like to see what engine they will use in race cars. I am not quite confident that the new engine will not suffer the same problems where seeing on m96/m97 and Cayenne engines. 9A1 engines are also suffering from premature cylinder wear and thrown connecting rods. Seems there only making cars so that are only reliable for certain mileage driven under garage queen conditions and not high performance driving or to be used in cold weather climates or as a DD. With all the electronic chips and sensors that will erode over time seems like they could just end up all in the recycle bin. One thing to consider if you do own a modern Porsche is to purchase a second engine while it is still being produced, wait for a sale because once they are not produced anymore their price doubles or triples.

One point though about the turbos, they seem to add more oil squirters and seem to have less tight tolerances then the NA engines have, this could actually help the problems of premature cylinder wear. They probably need to reinforce other aspects because of the torque jump from NA. Maybe that is a good thing for owners that keep there cars for long term.

wc11

I like the list but how about
Sans Turbo
Turbo Less

ronnie993tt

Wanna bet? The air kooled ones will be. Speculate this might be enough to sustain the current price bubble..............but maybe not.

Gregster

Honda and Toyoda?

Pags993

^ Bingo. So far but a few others are looking as well. GM pickups switched to 0W20 last year

tcsracing1

If all Porsches go turbo, then the 911TT models and GT2 models will be somewhat less special.

If this is indeed the last of the normally aspirated GT3, perhaps the 991GT3 is worth picking up sooner then later....

All too early to speculate but i am just dying for an excuse to get 991RS