amaist

Motorcycles are dangerous and no amount of rider baby sitting will prevent what happened.

Most of the organizations are well run or we would be hearing more often about such sad events.

Car guys get away with murder in comparison. The stories of yahoos going on the track without the required experience mostly end with someone destroying their car and not getting hurt. But bikes require much more respect.

Christien

Woah, 2 deaths in a month with the same group? Not to jump to conclusions, but if I were in charge of that group, the rest of the season would be cancelled while I consulted with 1. the rest of the group and 2. lawyers. I think I can hear the ambulance chasers coming now...

Never mind that, though. A terrible thing to happen, no matter what the reason. We all accept risk, but I think we all assume that's limited to vehicle damage. Death is another level altogether.

early_grayce

Very sad, RIP.

+1

Crazy Canuck

With bikes I'm actually amazed it doesn't happen more often.

chrenan

Very sad. The margin for error on a bike is tiny. A minor tank slapper in a car can quickly turn fatal on a bike.

Rev_2_8k

Wow, RIP.... condolences to the family and friends involved.

This is one more reason I chalked up to selling my bike. In a car you have 4 wheels, harnesses, airbags, etc.

The margin of error on track with a bike, especially on a treacherous track like Mosport is minuscule.

petee_c

Since there's so much attention on bike trackdays, I'll share my limitted insight. I've tracked bikes maybe a dozen times in the past 10yrs, and once in the Porsche (last year). I have only been to various configurations of Shannonville and TMP. The car was at TMP.

Going around a track on a sportbike is a much different experience than in a car. The acceleration and braking on a bike, can't compare to my '01 BoxsterS. With a rider, on a early 2000 600cc sportbike is probably looking at 8lbs/hp. My boxster, with my 190lb 'physique' gets about 12.5lb/hp.

Cornering on a bike is much more visceral than in a car. Leaning the bike over, balancing your body, is not something that isn't quite replicated in a car.

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911 Rod

Very sad

Saturn

Yeah after 3 you can pick up lots of speed. Turn 4 is a blind downhill turn. After the turn you can pick up really fast speeds as it is downhill. Some folks really slow down just before the Moss hairpin. It might have been a collision where the guy in front slowed too quickly after the downhill turn and a collision happened. This is only speculation without facts.

amaist

Unless the lawyers can prove very gross negligence they have no case. Waivers have been tested in court in Canada and did hold up.

Bikes are very dangerous. People who participate know that. That's part of the thrill.

Very sad for everyone that knew the rider. I lost my best friend in a (street) motorcycle accident a few years ago. Very dark time in my life.

Christien

Absolutely right, but it will still cost you an easy 6 figures in legal fees to arrive at the same conclusion.

ronnie993tt

Very sad. A neighbour of mine - Carlos - lost his life motorcycling there 4 or 5 years ago. Left a wife and daughter. Really sad part is he did not ride on the road because he said it was too dangerous.....

Torontoworker

I can't talk about it but it was a single bike incident.

Dale Gribble

+ 1. The scrutineering at track days is more rigorous than many of the events the Rennlisters run in in terms of vehicle prep.

Simple fact of the matter is that if you go down on a bike at Mosport, the lack of runoff room that might crumple a shiney 996 can be lethal when a rider goes down. No amount of prep or babysitting will ever change that.

R.I.P to the rider.

Having said that, I don't know why CTV ran that news clip....it wasn't put into context properly.

FFaust

Agreed.