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Old 02-28-2017, 07:39 PM
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I run 100 octane in my Porsche 944, no knock control, CRG of about 11. The 100 octane is achieved by mixing 91 ethanol free with 110/112 leaded race fuel in a 50/50 ratio. Ethanol free is less than $3/gal and 110 race fuel is $9/gal or the mixture is $ 6/gal
Old 02-28-2017, 08:10 PM
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I ran 100LL in a 'modified' MGB street car for a few years back in the 80's. Yea I know it was on the illegal side. I had easy access to to the fuel. I had removed the Cat, shaved the heads to get about 11.5. Ran like a top for some 20,000 miles. It finally met its maker in a a ditch in central Alberta, on a rainy day, I walked away, well I limped away. I still run 100LL in all my small engines. Two modern aircraft tugs, with B&S Engines, a 2-Cycle chain saw, a Snowblower, a Power Broom, etc etc etc. I love that you can leave the gas in them for a long-long time and never have to worry about things getting all gummed up.
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i've never tried the octane boosters, but I'd be worried that the octane wouldn't be high enough and consistent enough to be sure that you'd avoid engine killing detonation in a race engine. might be fine for a street car driven application though
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Last time I looked into octane boosters, you had to use a lot of the product to get a meaningful bump in octane. To get 100 octane, you'd have to use many bottles of booster. But that was admittedly a long while ago - maybe they've improved since then.
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What about running E85? You'd have to change the injectors to increase the flow -- but that would give you an effective octane boost.

I'm considering doing the same for my RSR race engine.

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Old 03-02-2017, 10:23 AM
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hey Mike! see my above long detailed post concerning E85 and my experiences with it.

yes when I converted over to E85 I had to change the fuel pump (upsize it) and change all the injectors (upsized them by 60%) and spent a full day on the dyno retuning to get the max benefit from the E85
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Originally Posted by stownsen914
Last time I looked into octane boosters, you had to use a lot of the product to get a meaningful bump in octane. To get 100 octane, you'd have to use many bottles of booster. But that was admittedly a long while ago - maybe they've improved since then.
You could, in theory, use toluene or xylene to boost the octane of gasoline. Available at paint stores. Cost vs track-bought fuel? Ymmv
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Originally Posted by Mister C
You could, in theory, use toluene or xylene to boost the octane of gasoline. Available at paint stores. Cost vs track-bought fuel? Ymmv

Good point. I'd consider doing that if I had any information on amounts, octane increase, etc.
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maybe it's just me, but i think i'd be more concerned about creating engine damage on my expensive car by using a fuel created by a home brew of chemicals that I'd purchased at a paint store, vs using carefully controlled/produced aviation fuel?



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