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Old 01-09-2017, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob S
Wow, no kidding. If these relatively unrepairable newer tubs become unavailable, what's going to happen to the desirability and value of this whole field of cars a few years from now? They won't be current enough to be competitive for the racers, and they won't appeal to the club folks because they'll be too fragile to risk. Doesn't bode well for the hobbyist who wants a previous generation race car for "fun." Better to stick with cars that are more durable and repairable.
The same thing that will happen to the fragile 991 Cups... Who buys them?
This is the way of the future in term of aluminum race cars.

The 996 and 997 Cups are easier to repair. However their tubs have also run scarce.
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
The same thing that will happen to the fragile 991 Cups... Who buys them?
This is the way of the future in term of aluminum race cars.

The 996 and 997 Cups are easier to repair. However their tubs have also run scarce.
new 991 Cup has reinforced subframe to address one of the key vulnerabilities. hopefully that cuts down on the number of retubs. also, older steel tubs time-out, although many in club racing tend to ignore and just wait for stuff to break.
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Originally Posted by Nizer
new 991 Cup has reinforced subframe to address one of the key vulnerabilities. hopefully that cuts down on the number of retubs. also, older steel tubs time-out, although many in club racing tend to ignore and just wait for stuff to break.
Time out? Not really. At least not steel tubs with proper steel cages that support the suspension. Steel tubs can be easily fixed for a less money than a aluminum retub.

Or do you think all the really old vintage steel tub race cars need to be retubbed?
Old 01-09-2017, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob S
Wow, no kidding. If these relatively unrepairable newer tubs become unavailable, what's going to happen to the desirability and value of this whole field of cars a few years from now?
Originally Posted by Plavan
I agree- If I could afford and was looking for a GT4cs now, then learned this, I would immediately look elsewhere and not even consider them.
Guys, PMNA will NOT let that happen. Don't worry...
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Plavan
Note to self. I will no longer consider Aluminum Porsche race cars..... Not like I could afford them anyway....
It's not just the aluminum cars now... probably to help with the billions owed due to dieselgate, all Porsche race items are getting ridiculously priced. Price a GT3 cup engine rebuild lately? Or other race parts? They are going to rape us till nobody is left. I may go back to racing my old car, or get another older car, as I'm not going to pay that much to race a newer car, there are so many other better ways to spend my money.
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Originally Posted by analogmike
It's not just the aluminum cars now... probably to help with the billions owed due to dieselgate, all Porsche race items are getting ridiculously priced. Price a GT3 cup engine rebuild lately? Or other race parts? They are going to rape us till nobody is left. I may go back to racing my old car, or get another older car, as I'm not going to pay that much to race a newer car, there are so many other better ways to spend my money.
Its funny

I was eating at houston restaurant in pompano last week with a friend of mine that race 997 cup car in PCA with us.

He gave me his phone with an email from PNMA showing the cost of the new 991 cup, something like 250-300k cad. He said, he would like to race in imsa!

I said to him, i will be your windshield washer guy loll

Crazy price!!!
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Originally Posted by 987part
Its funny

I was eating at houston restaurant in pompano last week with a friend of mine that race 997 cup car in PCA with us.

He gave me his phone with an email from PNMA showing the cost of the new 991 cup, something like 250-300k cad. He said, he would like to race in imsa!

I said to him, i will be your windshield washer guy loll

Crazy price!!!
the cheapest part of IMSA is buying the car.
Old 01-09-2017, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
new 991 Cup has reinforced subframe to address one of the key vulnerabilities. hopefully that cuts down on the number of retubs. also, older steel tubs time-out, although many in club racing tend to ignore and just wait for stuff to break.
One of the issues of the 991 cup was that they are not allowed to have the front clipped. (997 was allowed to be clipped...)

The GT4 can be clipped however.

Not sure the rhyme or reason however from one to the other?
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Heard from a PMNA friend that three new GT4 tubs were ordered after the ROAR - looks like tubs are selling like hot cakes ;(
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
One of the issues of the 991 cup was that they are not allowed to have the front clipped. (997 was allowed to be clipped...)

The GT4 can be clipped however.

Not sure the rhyme or reason however from one to the other?
991 Cup with new front clip for sale in vehicle marketplace recently...
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Any thoughts on this car?
http://www.meritpartners.com/feature...gt4-clubsport/
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Guys, PMNA will NOT let that happen. Don't worry...
What do you mean?
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Originally Posted by ir_fuel
What do you mean?
With the introduction of the MR version (which was not originallly planned, but a result of demand), the cars widespread acceptance in GT4 spec racing and the fact that far more are being campaigned this year than last, Porsche (and specifically PMNA here) are no longer constraining the number of tubs manufactured. Like Frank said, three were ordered in January by US teams after the test but before the Daytona race.

Have you seen how many cars were entered in this past weekend's Round 1 of the VLN?!?!
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Well that's good news.
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I have a line on a new one.

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