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Old 02-22-2016, 10:59 PM
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Dogger, both ATC and intech offer the nose cone you're talking about.
Old 02-23-2016, 04:16 PM
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both ATC and intech offer the nose cone you're talking about.
That's good to hear. I didn't see any evidence of the cones on their
websites. I guess I'll give them a call and see if I can get some info.
BTW, I like the Intech line up as well. I think either brand would be
a good choice.

On another subject, I'm ticking option boxes on this truck deal and
have a question. Do you guys think I should go for the dual alternator
option? I figure the trailer and winch batteries are going to be charged
either from a shore source or through the 7 pin, and with that kind of
load/drain, maybe a second alternator would be nice to have.
Old 02-23-2016, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dogger15
That's good to hear. I didn't see any evidence of the cones on their
websites. I guess I'll give them a call and see if I can get some info.
BTW, I like the Intech line up as well. I think either brand would be
a good choice.

On another subject, I'm ticking option boxes on this truck deal and
have a question. Do you guys think I should go for the dual alternator
option? I figure the trailer and winch batteries are going to be charged
either from a shore source or through the 7 pin, and with that kind of
load/drain, maybe a second alternator would be nice to have.
Definitely call Intech if you have any questions. It seems like they can do anything within reason. You can also check out prior builds on their Facebook page. They put up A LOT of pictures when they show a trailer on there.

On a slightly related note, I broke the door stop on my Intech a while ago. I called Intech and they mailed me a new one, no charge. It was my fault and I would have gladly paid for the piece, but Intech was kind enough to comp it.

I'm not sure if you plan on getting a diesel. If so, I thought all diesels had 2 batteries, in which case having 2 alternators seems like a good choice.
Old 02-25-2016, 03:23 PM
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Well I called Intech and ATC. Both referred me to local dealers
because they don't deal directly with the public. The Intech
dealer (located in KY), told me he would have to check with
Intech since he wasn't familiar with the nose cone option and
hadn't ever seen an Intech trailer with one. The ATC dealer
(located in MO), is also checking into it and will get back to
me.

I don't doubt either company can come up with their version
of this option, but it looks like there is little to no demand for
them. With the truck measuring 6 1/2' tall and just over 7'
wide, the trailer only adds a foot and a half of height and a
foot and a half of width. Like rim328 said, the truck is pretty
much the hole opener so I think I'm going to back off any
notions of trailer "streamlining".

Also after some more research, the dual alternators is definitely
the way to go if you anticipate extra electrical loads. The second
battery and alternator isolates the starting battery, protecting it
from drain.
Old 02-25-2016, 03:56 PM
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I bought my 24' ATC used, and it has a nose cone. I'm not sure that it really helps with the gas mileage. I get about 9 MPG towing with an F150 Ecoboost.
Old 02-25-2016, 04:53 PM
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On of the BIG advantages of an enclosed trailer is how easy it makes bringing all sorts of stuff to the track that you wouldn't bring with an open trailer. Extra fuel jugs, more tools, a battery charger, martini kit, electric heater, shop fan, extra chairs, a fold up table, compressor, etc, etc, etc... Add at least 500lbs to whatever weight you think you will be hauling. I just can't see having an enclosed trailer and then going on a diet in terms of what you bring to the track. My $.02
Old 02-25-2016, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mglobe
On of the BIG advantages of an enclosed trailer is how easy it makes bringing all sorts of stuff to the track that you wouldn't bring with an open trailer. Extra fuel jugs, more tools, a battery charger, martini kit, electric heater, shop fan, extra chairs, a fold up table, compressor, etc, etc, etc... Add at least 500lbs to whatever weight you think you will be hauling. I just can't see having an enclosed trailer and then going on a diet in terms of what you bring to the track. My $.02
Ahem, From Feb 19

Originally Posted by TXE36
3) You can put a lot more types of stuff in an enclosed than an open. Stuff tends to accumulate for guys with enclosed trailers.
I'm amazed at how much more stuff I bring with just the truck and box on the front of the open trailer. Enclosed? Sky is the limit.

-Mike
Old 02-26-2016, 12:02 AM
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I just installed a Keurig coffee maker and bringing some k-cup hot chocolate to Road Atlanta this weekend. I love enclosed trailers...
Old 02-26-2016, 01:13 AM
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I filled up my 24ft the day I bought it

Love the change - though I haven't had to tow the damn thing yet
Old 02-26-2016, 01:43 PM
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I get about 9 MPG towing with an F150 Ecoboost.
Pretty amazing results, that Ecoboost sounds like one heck of an engine.
I just can't see having an enclosed trailer and then going on a diet in terms of what you bring to the track.
I have no intention of scrimping on what I bring along now that I'm going
through all the trouble to buy a HD tow vehicle. I'm going back and forth
between a 24 or 26 foot trailer. Just from reading on here and the advise
I have received, some of the options I want on the trailer are:

Compartment for a 4000W Genset
Under floor storage for N2 bottles
Under floor wells for winch and winch battery
Roof mounted A/C/heat
Retractable awning

For the supplied cabinetry, I am having one speced out with drawers to
carry hand tools. Way back when, I spent considerable time die cutting foam
drawer liners to fit each tool. I decided to go with Craftsman due to the low
cost and if somebody "borrowed" something, it wouldn't be much of a loss.
I'm hoping those liners can be simply lifted out of the old and placed in the
new. The other two base cabinets will house a portable air compressor,
Aluminum jack stands and a battery charger.

I'm just getting started compiling a list of all the other doodads I'll need
or want. I figure I have about a ton to work with after the trailer and car
weight. The truck is limited to 14,500 lbs off the hitch. I would like to
keep the weight below 10,000 lbs for a nice safety margin.

I just installed a Keurig coffee maker and bringing some k-cup hot chocolate to Road Atlanta this weekend.
Now that sounds like a nice touch. I wonder if I could fit a decent espresso
machine in somewhere - nothing like getting the HR up before taking to
the track.
Old 02-26-2016, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dogger15
Pretty amazing results, that Ecoboost sounds like one heck of an engine.
I have no intention of scrimping on what I bring along now that I'm going
through all the trouble to buy a HD tow vehicle. I'm going back and forth
between a 24 or 26 foot trailer. Just from reading on here and the advise
I have received, some of the options I want on the trailer are:

Compartment for a 4000W Genset
Under floor storage for N2 bottles
Under floor wells for winch and winch battery
Roof mounted A/C/heat
Retractable awning

For the supplied cabinetry, I am having one speced out with drawers to
carry hand tools. Way back when, I spent considerable time die cutting foam
drawer liners to fit each tool. I decided to go with Craftsman due to the low
cost and if somebody "borrowed" something, it wouldn't be much of a loss.
I'm hoping those liners can be simply lifted out of the old and placed in the
new. The other two base cabinets will house a portable air compressor,
Aluminum jack stands and a battery charger.

I'm just getting started compiling a list of all the other doodads I'll need
or want. I figure I have about a ton to work with after the trailer and car
weight. The truck is limited to 14,500 lbs off the hitch. I would like to
keep the weight below 10,000 lbs for a nice safety margin.

Now that sounds like a nice touch. I wonder if I could fit a decent espresso
machine in somewhere - nothing like getting the HR up before taking to
the track.
Ha, yes. I keep both a grinder and semi auto machine in my trailer! Everyone makes fun of me when I'm steaming milk in my trailer, but I sure am popular in the winter months!

As to tools, and others will probably disagree with me. I like having drawers to keep things I need for the trailer only, but as to hand tools, I keep those in a rolling snap on cart I purchased off of craigs list. I do this for 2x reasons: One, I kart and have a different trailer so it makes taking tools from one trailer to another easy so I don't forget anything and secondly, so when I unload the trailer, the tools can stay secure and out of the trailer.

I spec'd mine with an infloor fuel tank for the gen set....not sure I would do that again. I think I'd run the new 6.5k honda gen set, 4k is on the low side to me. Mine is the cummins onan, which is great, but I can't remove it and take it to a new trailer as easy as the honda. I do like the on board fuel because it's large enough I can fill up out of town where I can get ethanol free, and it will last the entire year. 23+ gallon tank.....for a generator.

I'd spec more air outlets on the outside of the trailer and less on the inside.

I put a door on both sides of the trailer, would absolutely do that again too.

More in floor storage. I keep the car jack and stands in there, but I'd add more boxes for brake components, I'd add one for trailer batteries and possibly other odds and ins that rarely get touched.

I would possibly look at adding a 2nd A/C unit. I have a 15,000 unit on my 22, but it can get hot in Texas in the summer, 2 would have been nice since there is so much air that escapes everytime someone comes in and out. The heat strip is almost worthless, I'd use space heaters.

In fact, I plan to build a new gooseneck trailer this fall, and my 22' will probably be up for sale.

I have exterior lights on the trailer, both sides.....waste. Have never used them, and not sure when I would ever use them.

Electric tongue jack!!!! I'm a sissy, the button is easy.

Cabinetry, you may want a full height "closet" for suits. Think about helmet/hans and other safety gear storage. Air hose storage, fluids, etc.

What about a place for data review? Sat TV? Coax, Cat5/6? TV wall mount?
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Originally Posted by mglobe
On of the BIG advantages of an enclosed trailer is how easy it makes bringing all sorts of stuff to the track that you wouldn't bring with an open trailer. Extra fuel jugs, more tools, a battery charger, martini kit, electric heater, shop fan, extra chairs, a fold up table, compressor, etc, etc, etc... Add at least 500lbs to whatever weight you think you will be hauling. I just can't see having an enclosed trailer and then going on a diet in terms of what you bring to the track. My $.02
Martini kit is by FAR the best byproduct of an enclosed, that and hanging out "in doors" with friends.
Old 02-27-2016, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Viperbob1
Good Luck with purchase. My Dodge 2500 has 34 gallon tank with crew cab and short bed
That is what I have. Works great. 2005 diesel with NV5600 manual, 3.73 rear and 4x4.
Old 02-27-2016, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
Martini kit is by FAR the best byproduct of an enclosed, that and hanging out "in doors" with friends.
Any time!
Old 02-27-2016, 12:48 PM
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I have a friend
With an enclosed trailer
That has a coffee maker
And who makes me great coffee
I win


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