Servicing Moton ClubSports?
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Servicing Moton ClubSports?
Who are people using for shock rebuilds these days, specifically Moton? My former building is no longer working on them. Any recommendations?
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Maxcy Speed in the Dallas area can service them. http://www.maxcyspeedco.com/ Just had mine rebuilt there. They are former moton usa techs, and also handle JRZs, MCS etc.
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This is who I used to rebuild my club sports. Excellent service and turn around, I could have gone to a local rebuilder but these guys came with better recommendations.
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+1 very good service very reliable very knowledgeable. I started used PSI when I forget his name left moton and started MCS. I have been very happy with PSI
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Do you know if your rear clubsports are cup shocks or 996 shocks? I think my 03' X51 car has the shorter cup shocks as I have only 1 inch of droop and not much travel. It's like riding on the bump stops all the time and very uncomfortable. I put a 1/2" spacer under the rear shock mount just to get 155mm ride height with 680 rear tires. Not sure why they work on cups and no on street 996's....
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Do you know if your rear clubsports are cup shocks or 996 shocks? I think my 03' X51 car has the shorter cup shocks as I have only 1 inch of droop and not much travel. It's like riding on the bump stops all the time and very uncomfortable. I put a 1/2" spacer under the rear shock mount just to get 155mm ride height with 680 rear tires. Not sure why they work on cups and no on street 996's....
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I ended up with John Wagliardo at Inertia Laboratory out of the Dallas area. A new shop run by guys with lots of Moton experience. I have the old 7 click shocks for the 996, not the Cup version. The rebuild is proving to be a challenge given how old the shocks are and the fact that parts are no longer available. A quick recap from John:
Your motons have the old style hoses and QD's that are prone to leaking. The 360* swivels on your set are all leaking. This is common for that old design. The banjos and banjo stems tolerance loosens up over time and leaks pay the orings. The newer design solves this issue.
I've talked to a few of my hose suppliers to see if I could save you some money and reuse your current QD's, but no luck, as Goodridge doesn't make the male end fitting anymore. (The new design has a female fitting)We will have to replace all of the lines and QD's to make the set reliable again.
We talked about simply going with new shocks at this point but I simply don't have the time to test and find new settings at the tracks I go to when I have a book on the existing set-up. So I'll repair this set and get a couple more years out of this set-up before making bigger decisions.
Your motons have the old style hoses and QD's that are prone to leaking. The 360* swivels on your set are all leaking. This is common for that old design. The banjos and banjo stems tolerance loosens up over time and leaks pay the orings. The newer design solves this issue.
I've talked to a few of my hose suppliers to see if I could save you some money and reuse your current QD's, but no luck, as Goodridge doesn't make the male end fitting anymore. (The new design has a female fitting)We will have to replace all of the lines and QD's to make the set reliable again.
We talked about simply going with new shocks at this point but I simply don't have the time to test and find new settings at the tracks I go to when I have a book on the existing set-up. So I'll repair this set and get a couple more years out of this set-up before making bigger decisions.
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One last question: Did Moton build a longer bodied clubsport for regular 996's versus the 6-cups or is the difference just the droop limiters?...
As always, thanks for sharing your knowledge Steve....
JRG
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Ahh that makes sense. Am I correct in assuming that the droop limiters were for cups with air jacks as they want the wheels off the ground as low as possible? Are the cups able to handle the limited droop because of their 1500lb rear springs which don't compress as much as say my 800lb. rears (same 5"/130mm length with cup helpers)?
One last question: Did Moton build a longer bodied clubsport for regular 996's versus the 6-cups or is the difference just the droop limiters?...
As always, thanks for sharing your knowledge Steve....
JRG
One last question: Did Moton build a longer bodied clubsport for regular 996's versus the 6-cups or is the difference just the droop limiters?...
As always, thanks for sharing your knowledge Steve....
JRG
Air jacks were not a direct consideration.
All of the Clubsports were the same length body respectively, for each model of car. Motorsport shocks OTOH, were available in two lengths.