PCA 48 Hours at Sebring
02-18-2016, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
I dunno, it doesn't to me.
The car ahead at turn in has the corner, meaning that if that car is on a trajectory for the apex, the passing car must not dive into the apex, thus causing a collision. That said, the car ahead at turn in cannot do whatever they want. If their trajectory is NOT towards the apex (as the blue car was NOT in Evan's video), they cannot just lunge for it (as the blue car did) suddenly. Racing room needs to be given. This is IMO not contradictory. Which is why (at least from Evan's video) I was surprised the blue car did not get a 13.
The car ahead at turn in has the corner, meaning that if that car is on a trajectory for the apex, the passing car must not dive into the apex, thus causing a collision. That said, the car ahead at turn in cannot do whatever they want. If their trajectory is NOT towards the apex (as the blue car was NOT in Evan's video), they cannot just lunge for it (as the blue car did) suddenly. Racing room needs to be given. This is IMO not contradictory. Which is why (at least from Evan's video) I was surprised the blue car did not get a 13.
02-18-2016, 04:52 PM
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I dunno, it doesn't to me.
The car ahead at turn in has the corner, meaning that if that car is on a trajectory for the apex, the passing car must not dive into the apex, thus causing a collision. That said, the car ahead at turn in cannot do whatever they want. If their trajectory is NOT towards the apex (as the blue car was NOT in Evan's video), they cannot just lunge for it (as the blue car did) suddenly. Racing room needs to be given. This is IMO not contradictory. Which is why (at least from Evan's video) I was surprised the blue car did not get a 13.
The car ahead at turn in has the corner, meaning that if that car is on a trajectory for the apex, the passing car must not dive into the apex, thus causing a collision. That said, the car ahead at turn in cannot do whatever they want. If their trajectory is NOT towards the apex (as the blue car was NOT in Evan's video), they cannot just lunge for it (as the blue car did) suddenly. Racing room needs to be given. This is IMO not contradictory. Which is why (at least from Evan's video) I was surprised the blue car did not get a 13.
02-18-2016, 05:06 PM
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02-18-2016, 05:37 PM
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I've been told by a fellow racer who shall remain nameless that if he's ahead he's going for the apex and you better get out of his way. That corner is his. And don't try going around the outside because he's tracking out whether you are there or not.
He weaponized the rule and used it often.
He weaponized the rule and used it often.
Sorry for stating the obvious, but I feel better now.
02-18-2016, 05:46 PM
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The bottom line is the more you try to legislate a specific rule the harder it is to allow for every variation of a situation. And allowing the scrutes to make decisions can lead to their own inequalities. You see that every day in F1 depending on who is in command that weekend. I think so long as we have "gentlemen racing" without any contact it will be a hard point to legislate and enforce no matter what you do.
02-18-2016, 07:11 PM
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02-18-2016, 07:51 PM
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02-21-2016, 09:46 PM
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I can understand the PCA version that the lead car 'has' the corner but does not own the corner. This places more responsibility on the passing car and IMHO is an attempt to minimize peeps dive bombing the inside apex and 'expecting' the passee to 'leave racing room'.
I agree with garrett and Astroman... nailed it!
In my experience, the trailing car is almost ALWAYS held responsible. 'You should've backed out' or 'where was he supposed to go?' are phrases I hear. It's frustrating... especially in a case like Evan's where the driver just turned right into him... how is that not a 13 in the blue car?!?
Aha... Evan was trailing and shoulda coulda seen it coming and backed out and blue car 'had' the corner even though he turned into contact = racing incident.
I agree with garrett and Astroman... nailed it!
In my experience, the trailing car is almost ALWAYS held responsible. 'You should've backed out' or 'where was he supposed to go?' are phrases I hear. It's frustrating... especially in a case like Evan's where the driver just turned right into him... how is that not a 13 in the blue car?!?
Aha... Evan was trailing and shoulda coulda seen it coming and backed out and blue car 'had' the corner even though he turned into contact = racing incident.
02-21-2016, 09:55 PM
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