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NEW SPEC CAYMAN CLASS SPC ?
10-15-2015, 06:43 PM
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NEW SPEC CAYMAN CLASS SPC ?
Is anyone building one or planning to race this class next year ?
Curious to hear how much Serious interest & commitment exists...
Curious to hear how much Serious interest & commitment exists...
10-15-2015, 10:35 PM
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I was temped until I saw that it was for "S" only. The Cayman S already has a very good spot in Stock H and there is a competitive field there.
10-15-2015, 10:59 PM
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10-16-2015, 08:39 AM
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Tires are unspecified now.
I think the class would appeal more if a good grip R comp( like Hankook Z214) was specd.
Hoping it's not a low grip low quality Toyo..
If you plan to run the class let the rules committee know your tire preferences Now.
I think the class would appeal more if a good grip R comp( like Hankook Z214) was specd.
Hoping it's not a low grip low quality Toyo..
If you plan to run the class let the rules committee know your tire preferences Now.
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10-16-2015, 10:43 AM
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10-16-2015, 02:29 PM
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Having said that, the RR isn't available in SPC sizes. I suspect the class with end up with Hankooks, Kuhmo, BFG, or Hoosier, depending on size availability. Feedback/preferences will help Walt.
On the question of the class itself... I'm certainly very interested. Spec class racing is a successful formula and I bet this will catch on.
10-16-2015, 04:58 PM
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Was considering SPB, but never thrilled about the boxsters.
Previously ran PCA stock classes in early 2000s, have been in Miata land since, so would like to think I have a good basis of knowledge regarding both PCA and 'spec' classes.
The spec suspension and tire greatly decreases the arms race and makes it a purer drivers class.
The Cayman is also a newer, more refined platform than the SPB boxsters. The power to weight will slot the Cayman in a great place for regional endurance racing, whereas the SPB where not a whole lot faster than a spec Miata.
Bring it on!
Previously ran PCA stock classes in early 2000s, have been in Miata land since, so would like to think I have a good basis of knowledge regarding both PCA and 'spec' classes.
The spec suspension and tire greatly decreases the arms race and makes it a purer drivers class.
The Cayman is also a newer, more refined platform than the SPB boxsters. The power to weight will slot the Cayman in a great place for regional endurance racing, whereas the SPB where not a whole lot faster than a spec Miata.
Bring it on!
10-16-2015, 04:59 PM
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Most people racing these cars already would have to take away performance parts and dumb down their cars to fit into this new class.
I don't know who asked for this, or if anyone asked for it at all, but I think it is a distraction that may draw some cars away from the already sparsely populated H and I classes.
Perhaps we should only have three cars per category that way everyone gets a trophy!
10-16-2015, 05:30 PM
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Luigi,
As an 'H' racer at the time, I had a similar reaction to the GTB classes when initially proposed. A lot of Caymans and 996s went there that would have otherwise been running Stock H/I/J.
While I agree that the number of classes, and the dilution of them, sucks... I don't think it is a sound reason to kill a new idea/class initially.
The clubs' goal should be more participation on a gross basis, year over year. If it pulls in new customers, great.
What I don't like about the 'stock' classes is the need to 'sticker up' if you want to be at the pointy end of a highly competitive class and the costly suspension packages which require a lot of tuning. I love Porsches but I come to the track to RACE, not tinker. ... just my $0.02.
As an 'H' racer at the time, I had a similar reaction to the GTB classes when initially proposed. A lot of Caymans and 996s went there that would have otherwise been running Stock H/I/J.
While I agree that the number of classes, and the dilution of them, sucks... I don't think it is a sound reason to kill a new idea/class initially.
The clubs' goal should be more participation on a gross basis, year over year. If it pulls in new customers, great.
What I don't like about the 'stock' classes is the need to 'sticker up' if you want to be at the pointy end of a highly competitive class and the costly suspension packages which require a lot of tuning. I love Porsches but I come to the track to RACE, not tinker. ... just my $0.02.
10-16-2015, 05:38 PM
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Luigi,
As an 'H' racer at the time, I had a similar reaction to the GTB classes when initially proposed. A lot of Caymans and 996s went there that would have otherwise been running Stock H/I/J.
While I agree that the number of classes, and the dilution of them, sucks... I don't think it is a sound reason to kill a new idea/class initially.
The clubs' goal should be more participation on a gross basis, year over year. If it pulls in new customers, great.
What I don't like about the 'stock' classes is the need to 'sticker up' if you want to be at the pointy end of a highly competitive class and the costly suspension packages which require a lot of tuning. I love Porsches but I come to the track to RACE, not tinker. ... just my $0.02.
As an 'H' racer at the time, I had a similar reaction to the GTB classes when initially proposed. A lot of Caymans and 996s went there that would have otherwise been running Stock H/I/J.
While I agree that the number of classes, and the dilution of them, sucks... I don't think it is a sound reason to kill a new idea/class initially.
The clubs' goal should be more participation on a gross basis, year over year. If it pulls in new customers, great.
What I don't like about the 'stock' classes is the need to 'sticker up' if you want to be at the pointy end of a highly competitive class and the costly suspension packages which require a lot of tuning. I love Porsches but I come to the track to RACE, not tinker. ... just my $0.02.
I don't think there are going to be 5-10 people who come into PCA racing and populate that class. Its going to suck more people out and I'll have no choice but to go into a GTB class and get my a$$ handed to me every race by those bunch of maniacs! (Except for Frank, he is a more gentlemanly maniac!)
10-16-2015, 07:33 PM
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I don't think there are going to be 5-10 people who come into PCA racing and populate that class. Its going to suck more people out and I'll have no choice but to go into a GTB class and get my a$$ handed to me every race by those bunch of maniacs! (Except for Frank, he is a more gentlemanly maniac!)