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Old 03-30-2015, 03:46 PM
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Its axiomatic, but time will tell.

But during this time as Honda and McLaren get their act together, and little doubt that they will- MB, Ferrari and others (Renault?) won't be standing still.

Who knows exactly what was in FA's mind when he made the jump, but you have to figure winning was high on the list. Lightning struck once with Hamilton's move to MB- did he really expect it to strike twice? Evidently he did.
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Originally Posted by Pete
The decisions he has made during his career are staggering when you add up all the bad moves and that's why I say that he has surrounded himself with what I believe to be bad advisors.
Based on what little I know or remember of that stuff happening from watching it on TV, I have to agree.

Originally Posted by RallyeChris
Look closely at Alonso's history. He has a magical ability to turn teams to ****. Is he a great driver? Yes. But he can not help make a team better. Who was faster this past weekend in the McHonda? Oh, that would be Jenson.
Was Jenson actually faster? I thought Alonso was leading him before he retired and had also run a faster lap both during qualifying and during the race, though Jenson lasted quite a bit longer. I'm a much bigger fan of Jenson than Alonso to be sure, so I wouldn't mind seeing him top Alonso now and then.
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Originally Posted by pontifex4
Based on what little I know or remember of that stuff happening from watching it on TV, I have to agree.



Was Jenson actually faster? I thought Alonso was leading him before he retired and had also run a faster lap both during qualifying and during the race, though Jenson lasted quite a bit longer. I'm a much bigger fan of Jenson than Alonso to be sure, so I wouldn't mind seeing him top Alonso now and then.
From Formula 1 website:

"McLaren's best lap of the race was a 1m 46.056s set on lap 38 by Button, which put him 16th on the list of 19 drivers, four seconds shy of Nico Rosberg's leading time of 1m 42.062s for Mercedes."

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...-malaysia.html

From McLaren website:

Alonso fastest lap: 1m48.460s on lap 17

Jenson fastes lap: 1m46.056s on lap 38

Both on option tires, Jenson obviously running lighter at the time of his fast lap, but that's a 1.5 second gap.

http://www.mclaren.com/formula1/2015...e-report-2015/
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We will see.
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http://www.planetf1.com/driver/55667...nando-thinking
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And in other news F Alonso placed on suicide watch as doctors prescribe heavy sedatives
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Originally Posted by agdamis
And in other news F Alonso placed on suicide watch as doctors prescribe heavy sedatives
Difficult to tell what motivates a guy like Alonso after so much controversy...

It could be that somebody at McLaren/Honda has been stretching the truth, and he fell for it... I know I have made a mistake in my career direction because of believing statements that simply where not true. After you commit, you see the truth but you fight to believe it's not true... you fight to make it work, but deep inside you know it will fall apart.

Instead of suicide watch, I think they should keep Ron Dennis and Alonso is separate rooms at all times. Otherwise, a homicide may occur...
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You guys are all so quick to write off the Honda. I don't see how you can really know if he shot himself in the foot until at least towards the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by LuigiVampa
Alonso might have known it was a development year for McLaren/Honda but I don't think he would have left Ferrari if he felt they could have delivered a winning car.

Alonso managed to do exactly the opposite of what Hamilton did.

What would Kimi's race have looked like without the puncture?
+1 on all of your points
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Originally Posted by RallyeChris
Look closely at Alonso's history. He has a magical ability to turn teams to ****. Is he a great driver? Yes. But he can not help make a team better. Who was faster this past weekend in the McHonda? Oh, that would be Jenson.
100% agreed
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
You guys are all so quick to write off the Honda. I don't see how you can really know if he shot himself in the foot until at least towards the end of the season.
We could be completely wrong but the way I look at it, Honda had a year to sit on the sidelines and see what was going on with the new formula, specifically the split turbo and thus far, have been looking bad. I have no doubt they will be better by years end, but look how long it took Ferrari who has not had the break from F1 like Honda did and they are still .5 off the pace to say nothing of Renault.
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If only he had the collective wisdom of RL.
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Yeah, the poor guy's making $20M/yr racing cars with financing from one of the top 5 auto manufacturers in the world...

Boy.... What a loser!!!
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
You guys are all so quick to write off the Honda. I don't see how you can really know if he shot himself in the foot until at least towards the end of the season.
Larry -

All WDCs are special and amazing but one for Ferrari puts you in a different league. Despite coming very close twice he did not manage it. This will always haunt him.

I am not writing Honda off, but Alonso is passed his prime and as someone pointed out the pool of young talent is deep. He does not have another 5 years to devote to another manufacturer to get it's act together.

I was completely against this move from the start. I understand he has been frustrated for 5 years and who knows maybe he could not take it anymore but in my book the right move would have been to stay at Ferrari as he knew their were changes being made and if their was no improvement, to try for Rosberg's spot at Mercedes at 2016.


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