Dull in here...
01-30-2015, 03:44 PM
#31
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DON'T!
It's not a choice, its a factor.
some are easily amused! 
remember.... torque is just a part of HP ... no more no less.
(disclaimer .... Big Disclaimer.... that is if we are talking about torque being the forces that accelerate us......torque at the wheels! not at the engine)
Im always always game for a fun challenge...... my offer to race VR anywhere , in anything (Miata, 944, 4x4, indy car, or real road race car) is always standing!
BOOM POW POW (formally, BOOM BOOM POW)
your braking sucks... sorry, the truth may hurt. don't blame the fluid
your avatar says it all.... Very Ghetto!!!
truthfully, you just have way too much steering input and it costs you a lot of car reaction. the trail brake wasn't as bad as the steering input that caused it. then the shuffle steer on the following turn didn't cause any problem, but there is a little irony there.
One day and I could save you 1/2 second(edited from 1 second after seeing entire video) a lap guaranteed.
LOVE IT!!! (and so true.... and Im not a big Nascar fan either! racing is racing though!!!)
To some
remember.... torque is just a part of HP ... no more no less.
(disclaimer .... Big Disclaimer.... that is if we are talking about torque being the forces that accelerate us......torque at the wheels! not at the engine)
What we need is a new Ghetto Racer. Those were lively times in deed.
I guess we could settle for Jackie Lee but,...... (he's probably got rotten teeth and moved on to Nascar)
Yeah, it's boring now. Maybe a bunch of Cup Cars will mix it up at T1 of race 1 at Sebring and give us something to bitch about.
VR and Mark could have another lovers quarrel in public.
I guess we could settle for Jackie Lee but,...... (he's probably got rotten teeth and moved on to Nascar)
Yeah, it's boring now. Maybe a bunch of Cup Cars will mix it up at T1 of race 1 at Sebring and give us something to bitch about.
VR and Mark could have another lovers quarrel in public.
BOOM POW POW (formally, BOOM BOOM POW)
OK...
Here is a vid which illustrates my brilliant car handling skills (note the rapid bending entry and use of the throttle to settle the suspension, as well as the calm demeanor and vastly superior guidance I give the car).
It also highlights, in the second corner, the use of advanced shuffle steer...best left to those with the superb skill I have.
Anybody who brings back the Boxster video illuminating the reason I left the race in Texas will have beer cans tossed their direction at races this year....just sayin'.
Comma Trail Brake oops - YouTube
Here is a vid which illustrates my brilliant car handling skills (note the rapid bending entry and use of the throttle to settle the suspension, as well as the calm demeanor and vastly superior guidance I give the car).
It also highlights, in the second corner, the use of advanced shuffle steer...best left to those with the superb skill I have.
Anybody who brings back the Boxster video illuminating the reason I left the race in Texas will have beer cans tossed their direction at races this year....just sayin'.
Comma Trail Brake oops - YouTube
truthfully, you just have way too much steering input and it costs you a lot of car reaction. the trail brake wasn't as bad as the steering input that caused it. then the shuffle steer on the following turn didn't cause any problem, but there is a little irony there.
One day and I could save you 1/2 second(edited from 1 second after seeing entire video) a lap guaranteed.
Why not some NASCAR and a bit of Danica thrown in?
“Sure everybody in NASCAR gets a trophy, as long as they win the f***in’ race.”
America Start Your Engines
Mankini warning, although it's still worth watching.
-Mike
“Sure everybody in NASCAR gets a trophy, as long as they win the f***in’ race.”
America Start Your Engines
Mankini warning, although it's still worth watching.
-Mike
To some
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01-30-2015, 03:54 PM
#32
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KIAB!! I have found a great example of what im talking about.
I truly think its UNARGUABLE (if that is even a word.... VR? looking for grammar guidance)
go to :47 on your video.
CLASSIC .... you approach the turn.. cheat up on the wheel and shuffle steer. IT CLEARLY causes a position error and you to input way way too much steering input to the car, causing instability and an oversteer. this is very obvious to me, and wonder if you see it too. Do you ? you end up having "overleverage" and "over position" on the wheel, and your reaction for the turn is based on 2-10, but you end up overturning by about 90 degrees, which is the amount of the shuffle steer. check it out! (no charge)
edit: watched the entire segment. actually, pretty good! except for the shuffle-steering which was causing you issues at the 2nd to the last turn and turn 2, you were running very strong. entertaining with the 2 cup cars! car sounds great too!
I truly think its UNARGUABLE (if that is even a word.... VR? looking for grammar guidance)
go to :47 on your video.
CLASSIC .... you approach the turn.. cheat up on the wheel and shuffle steer. IT CLEARLY causes a position error and you to input way way too much steering input to the car, causing instability and an oversteer. this is very obvious to me, and wonder if you see it too. Do you ? you end up having "overleverage" and "over position" on the wheel, and your reaction for the turn is based on 2-10, but you end up overturning by about 90 degrees, which is the amount of the shuffle steer. check it out!
(no charge) edit: watched the entire segment. actually, pretty good! except for the shuffle-steering which was causing you issues at the 2nd to the last turn and turn 2, you were running very strong. entertaining with the 2 cup cars! car sounds great too!
01-30-2015, 04:22 PM
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I've made a veritable raft of passes using precisely that maneuver (the sharp cut to the inside at around .51 on the video) and would love to say that right there, the steering input was not too steep...but it was.
(fun for a little narrow bodied 300whp car though)
Good call. It can get very quick down there (the elevation changes and out of camber stuff there is the reason its call the "Bitch") and I've been known to dirt track through it (see avatar).
I honestly do not believe that the pre-positioning caused that input though...just that the input was too great.
I will, however, take a serious (edit: GRANULAR) look at keeping my hands a bit more stationary as I've known for a long time that I pre-position in places where it is not needed. Thank you.
When you're as fast as I am...it's tough, right?
(fun for a little narrow bodied 300whp car though)
Good call. It can get very quick down there (the elevation changes and out of camber stuff there is the reason its call the "Bitch") and I've been known to dirt track through it (see avatar).
I honestly do not believe that the pre-positioning caused that input though...just that the input was too great.
I will, however, take a serious (edit: GRANULAR) look at keeping my hands a bit more stationary as I've known for a long time that I pre-position in places where it is not needed. Thank you.
When you're as fast as I am...it's tough, right?
01-30-2015, 04:54 PM
#34
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I've made a veritable raft of passes using precisely that maneuver (the sharp cut to the inside at around .51 on the video) and would love to say that right there, the steering input was not too steep...but it was.
(fun for a little narrow bodied 300whp car though)
Good call. It can get very quick down there (the elevation changes and out of camber stuff there is the reason its call the "Bitch") and I've been known to dirt track through it (see avatar).
I honestly do not believe that the pre-positioning caused that input though...just that the input was too great.
I will, however, take a serious (edit: GRANULAR) look at keeping my hands a bit more stationary as I've known for a long time that I pre-position in places where it is not needed. Thank you.
When you're as fast as I am...it's tough, right?
(fun for a little narrow bodied 300whp car though)
Good call. It can get very quick down there (the elevation changes and out of camber stuff there is the reason its call the "Bitch") and I've been known to dirt track through it (see avatar).
I honestly do not believe that the pre-positioning caused that input though...just that the input was too great.
I will, however, take a serious (edit: GRANULAR) look at keeping my hands a bit more stationary as I've known for a long time that I pre-position in places where it is not needed. Thank you.
When you're as fast as I am...it's tough, right?
seriously, try it and get back to us.
obviously, you have good control and are running well... its all in the fine tuning.
looks like a fun track by the way, and like I said, entertaining to see you with the cup cars mixing it up.
01-30-2015, 07:26 PM
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Where are all the Alonso detractors?
01-30-2015, 07:44 PM
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01-30-2015, 08:50 PM
#38
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PDK is for pansies
01-30-2015, 08:51 PM
#39
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Best of luck with the DE sponsorship.....which probably makes a lot more sense then most pro sponsorships ive seen!
01-30-2015, 08:59 PM
#41
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250ftlbs vs 500ftlbs..... Who has more torque off the last corner here?
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-a...l#post11996433
01-30-2015, 09:35 PM
#42
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I use Brad P. oil and Endless brake stuff...
...I also have been known to pre-position my hands enough that it just might be shuffle steering.
We didn't have too many kerfuffles at PCA races this year, are new Cup drivers getting better, or have they just left the scene. Or, have we just stopped bitching about it...
Will the race built Cayman be the new Cup for GT3 guys leaving DE?
Why do the Alphabet cars run a passenger seat?
...I also have been known to pre-position my hands enough that it just might be shuffle steering.
We didn't have too many kerfuffles at PCA races this year, are new Cup drivers getting better, or have they just left the scene. Or, have we just stopped bitching about it...
Will the race built Cayman be the new Cup for GT3 guys leaving DE?
Why do the Alphabet cars run a passenger seat?
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01-31-2015, 07:04 AM
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