Bull

Ah yes....I'm sure you remember that you did that spin in front of me! I slowed and watched your downhill slide, then passed you (in my old 993) as you got back underway, saying to myself "get on by that boy"!

mglobe

Victory!

SundayDriver

It is nice to want safety improvements but we can be as insistent as we want and tracks will not spend the $$ to make the changes we might like. The real question is whether ALL participants would be willing and able to pay an additional $250-$500 per day to fund safety upgrades. We are a drop in the bucket for most tracks and they really don't care all that much if we come back. The ones that do care are the ones who really lack the money to make such changes.

Bull

No chance.....I chose my graphics so that the blue from the armco will match!

Robert Henriksen

Naw - it's completely in character. He's got a huge vested interest in improving run-off conditions. After all, he averages 1 four-wheels-off (or four wheels up?) per run session, IMX, so he's batting 1.000.

Bull

I see, but I thought he was averaging more than 1.0 per event.......

Robert Henriksen

Well, I said one session = one off, and there are eight sessions in a weekend...

Bull

Ah, got it! It is just my natural tendency to give people the benefit of the doubt and go easy on them I guess.

mglobe

It was just a matter of time before someone figured out this thread.

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DrJupeman

Veloce Raptor

Snork....

sbelles

We can all agree that improving safety is a good thing but more runoff room isn't necessarily safer. WGI and VIR are similar tracks except for all the Armco. While more cars probably get damaged at the Glen, there might be more severe ones if they could somehow move everything back.

There are also things that tracks do to minimize the chances of offs. Taking some camber out of the off camber at the Glen, changing the hairpin at Sebring, and the redesign of LR come to mind. Fine line to walk there.

mglobe

Very fine line, isn't it? I'd don't know Watkins Glen, but in general, I'd hate to see tracks take negative camber out to prevent offs. Something like that is part of the challenge of learning to drive.

fatbillybob

Well yes but I think 2 guys died at BW in the last 5 yrs from rolls. They could still do alot to repack the dirt to the level of the track so that cars are not encouraged to dig in and flip. WSIR could do many things too. Some of the offs at WSIR are like a motocross track with jumps.

mglobe

This is really the sort of stuff I was thinking of when I posted to begin with. Little grooming things that can make it a bit safer.