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Old 09-25-2007, 02:39 PM
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Just thought you might like to see what a broken half shaft looks like....

Old 09-25-2007, 02:40 PM
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That isn't too bad, how does the underside of the car look?
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Remarkably unscathed. He even drove it back to the pits!....
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Yikes well theres 2500 hundred beans out the door. I am using the solid black axles. Probably won't ever pony up 5 grand for the lighter blue ones.
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I had a similar experience with my 993. A previous owner had installed street half shafts and they just twisted themselves loose over time. Driving back to the pits was not an option...

Sorry, no pics.
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Note the wheel & tire size that the axle is laying on. That is GT3R/RS/RSR stuff, not Cup. Maybe that was a factor too, if that was all from the same car.
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You can always use a Cartridge axle at 11k per pair. They last much longer than the blue or street axles.
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Originally Posted by jmreiser
Note the wheel & tire size that the axle is laying on. That is GT3R/RS/RSR stuff, not Cup. Maybe that was a factor too, if that was all from the same car.
Good eyes Jim but it was an 05' cup with stock rims & tires. I wondered if anyone would notice that....
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Any idea how many hrs on the blue axle?
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Kev less than 80 hours on the car total. It's an 05' Cup that ran a few races inthe first IMSA GT3 season and a few Club races. It has been sitting until just recently....
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For 5k per set of axles, it would seam like it would be cheaper to make your own!
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey
You can always use a Cartridge axle at 11k per pair. They last much longer than the blue or street axles.
Geoffrey, can you expand a bit on the Cartridge axles? what makes them so much stronger? source? Do you think there is an inherent error factor if one uses a blue and a black if one is forced to mix a spare black at trackside?
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Causes of broken axles:
1. Accelerating hard while rear end light (suspension extended) or after catching air over birms

2. Accelerating before car completely dropped from air jacks in hot pits

3. Excessive standing starts


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Note, once an axle has been used on one side, it is only a spare for that side. Splines will wear, even if not visually detectable from regular eyesight.
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Hi Norm,

The Cartridge axles are built by a company Robert Linton owns and have been used by many of the ALMS teams in the RSRs. The axles have a high quality CV joint and lightweight axle assembly with cooling designed in. They are made from material like titanium, 300M, ceramic *****, etc. I know Chris Cervelli has been running them on their RSR and have been more cost effective to run over the Blue axles even at 11k initial price.

Here is a link to the source http://www.cartridgeltd.com/productl...ID=8&pstrPID=8
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What about these ones. $2,400 sounds pretty good.

I was considering them to run SCCA ProSolo events this year (at least 12 Drag Racing starts per event). Last year a GT2 and a GT3 broke axles at the SCCA ProSolo Nationals.

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