World Wide Cayman R Registry
09-19-2015, 06:30 PM
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Cayman R Registry
Ok, Data summary 9 / 19/15:
Background:
It is believed that there were 1421 total Cayman R's produced in the transition from the 987 to the 981. There is no 2013 Cayman model year. All Cayamn R's in North America were considered a 2012 model year. Cars for the rest of the world are sometimes designated (in advertising)as either model year 2011 or 2012. I believe Porsche considered all Cayman R's model year 2012. It is documented that there were 563 Cayman R's exported to the US market and 61 to the Canadian market. That leaves 797 cars for the rest of the world. It was believed that the production serial numbers ranged from 792065-793487, and we know that cars were produced and assembled in Finland as well as Germany. It is believed the early production cars were built in Finland under contract with Valmet Automotive and later cars were built at Porsches factory in Germany. You can identify the location of your cars build by the letters proceeding the last 6 digits of the Vin number. CS stands for Cayman's built in Germany and CU are Caymans built in Finland. As we know,the Cayman R came well equipped and is a car that is very comfortable on the track as well as the street. The Cayman R was available in 11 Standard/ metallic colors and in general 4 interior packages. It has been postulated that most cars were ordered by the dealers and consumers in the tradition popular Porsche colors. Guards Red, Carrera White, Black and Platinum Silver. All of Porsche's advertising used a new special color formulated for the R called Peridot Metallic. This was a non-tradition color and it was estimated that only 10% of the cars produced were in this color. Of course special order cars were always welcome. Among other things, it came standard with a 6 speed manual transmission, and either sport leather seats or carbon fiber (GT3)race seats.
When i was doing my research on the Cayman R it was clear that the details around it's production cycle was spotty at best. Yet this is truly a limited production very special car. It had been 40 years since that last time Porsche Management had approved the R designation for a model, and clearly the first time it was ever assigned to a Cayman.
So enough of history and what we thought we knew.
Current data summary:
I started this Registry to try to fine tune our basic knowledge of what the actual numbers for some key measurables might be.
Mix of U vs S produced cars, manufacture date, manual vs PDK, sport leather seats vs Carbon fiber bucket seats, color, and current location of the cars.
The response to the registry has been great. I first posted it on this site and since then the post has been linked to at least 4 other sites that address the world wide market.
I was able to clean up some inconsistencies in the prior data report. Here is what i have found so far in the data from the first 132 cars registered. The last data update we had 94 cars. So great job in getting registered....
I have included only cars with complete data...except I have included cars that have all data except the actual build date as many folks didnt know or register that information.
We have 19 people that have registered with cars from out side the US. We believe we have 2 of the 3 Cayman R's that are believed to have been delivered to New Zealand, one from South Africa, two from Germany, one from France, 11 from the UK, and one from Canada. All the rest are US cars.
We have vin numbers ranging from 790085-793544 a range of 3459?
It seems true that early cars(early Vin number and manufacturing dates) are manufactured in Finland...but not all! The earliest U (Finland) car is 790085 and the last U car registered is 793103. Interestingly enough we have 3 sets of cars, where one is manufactured in Finland and one in Germany with the same numerical Vin number. One having a CU prefix and the other an CS prefix? I am not sure yet how that plays out?We also have 2 sets of US cars that are different in color but have registered with the same Vin. number. These are probably typo's but are still unresolved.
The range of manufacturing dates on the cars registered range from 2/11 to 3/12. Unfortunately, not everyone registered has entered the build date.
The % of the cars registered by color are as follows; Peridot Metallic 32 cars 23.4%, Carrera White 30 cars 22.7%, Black 29 cars 21.9%, Platinum Silver 13 cars 9.8%, Aqua Blue Metallic 10 cars 7.5%, Guards Red 9 cars 6.8%, Meteor Gray Metallic 5 cars 3.7%, Speed Yellow 2 cars 1.5%, Vesuvio (special order) 1%, 1 car 1% in Ruby Red Metallic,
The split between manual and PDK is , 57% manual and 43% PDK.
Percent with sport carbon fiber seats is 40% the majority of the cars have leather sport seats.
Only 15% have PDK and Carbon fiber seats, 25.7% have manual transmission and carbon fiber seats.
It looks like the change over time frame for German only manufactured cars may be around 6/11. But, up until that date we have cars produced at both factories?
It is still early and the data base is clearly biased by US cars, but I am hopeful that as we gather more data we will get a clearer picture of what occurred and how accepted the original estimates were.
We are working off of some big assumptions, one of which is that all Cayman R's Vin numbers were unique and sequential. I am not sure that Cayman R serial numbers are unique. I looks like they may have fallen into the regular build sequence for the Cayman. You do see a series of serial numbers in sequence that are R builds so maybe the factory pooled R orders at times and that accounts for the pooling as well as the break and range in serial numbers. If we new exactly how many Caymans(all Models) were built in the time frame that the R's were built we could solve some of the mystery.
I will continue summarize the date as we get more.
Background:
It is believed that there were 1421 total Cayman R's produced in the transition from the 987 to the 981. There is no 2013 Cayman model year. All Cayamn R's in North America were considered a 2012 model year. Cars for the rest of the world are sometimes designated (in advertising)as either model year 2011 or 2012. I believe Porsche considered all Cayman R's model year 2012. It is documented that there were 563 Cayman R's exported to the US market and 61 to the Canadian market. That leaves 797 cars for the rest of the world. It was believed that the production serial numbers ranged from 792065-793487, and we know that cars were produced and assembled in Finland as well as Germany. It is believed the early production cars were built in Finland under contract with Valmet Automotive and later cars were built at Porsches factory in Germany. You can identify the location of your cars build by the letters proceeding the last 6 digits of the Vin number. CS stands for Cayman's built in Germany and CU are Caymans built in Finland. As we know,the Cayman R came well equipped and is a car that is very comfortable on the track as well as the street. The Cayman R was available in 11 Standard/ metallic colors and in general 4 interior packages. It has been postulated that most cars were ordered by the dealers and consumers in the tradition popular Porsche colors. Guards Red, Carrera White, Black and Platinum Silver. All of Porsche's advertising used a new special color formulated for the R called Peridot Metallic. This was a non-tradition color and it was estimated that only 10% of the cars produced were in this color. Of course special order cars were always welcome. Among other things, it came standard with a 6 speed manual transmission, and either sport leather seats or carbon fiber (GT3)race seats.
When i was doing my research on the Cayman R it was clear that the details around it's production cycle was spotty at best. Yet this is truly a limited production very special car. It had been 40 years since that last time Porsche Management had approved the R designation for a model, and clearly the first time it was ever assigned to a Cayman.
So enough of history and what we thought we knew.
Current data summary:
I started this Registry to try to fine tune our basic knowledge of what the actual numbers for some key measurables might be.
Mix of U vs S produced cars, manufacture date, manual vs PDK, sport leather seats vs Carbon fiber bucket seats, color, and current location of the cars.
The response to the registry has been great. I first posted it on this site and since then the post has been linked to at least 4 other sites that address the world wide market.
I was able to clean up some inconsistencies in the prior data report. Here is what i have found so far in the data from the first 132 cars registered. The last data update we had 94 cars. So great job in getting registered....
I have included only cars with complete data...except I have included cars that have all data except the actual build date as many folks didnt know or register that information.
We have 19 people that have registered with cars from out side the US. We believe we have 2 of the 3 Cayman R's that are believed to have been delivered to New Zealand, one from South Africa, two from Germany, one from France, 11 from the UK, and one from Canada. All the rest are US cars.
We have vin numbers ranging from 790085-793544 a range of 3459?
It seems true that early cars(early Vin number and manufacturing dates) are manufactured in Finland...but not all! The earliest U (Finland) car is 790085 and the last U car registered is 793103. Interestingly enough we have 3 sets of cars, where one is manufactured in Finland and one in Germany with the same numerical Vin number. One having a CU prefix and the other an CS prefix? I am not sure yet how that plays out?We also have 2 sets of US cars that are different in color but have registered with the same Vin. number. These are probably typo's but are still unresolved.
The range of manufacturing dates on the cars registered range from 2/11 to 3/12. Unfortunately, not everyone registered has entered the build date.
The % of the cars registered by color are as follows; Peridot Metallic 32 cars 23.4%, Carrera White 30 cars 22.7%, Black 29 cars 21.9%, Platinum Silver 13 cars 9.8%, Aqua Blue Metallic 10 cars 7.5%, Guards Red 9 cars 6.8%, Meteor Gray Metallic 5 cars 3.7%, Speed Yellow 2 cars 1.5%, Vesuvio (special order) 1%, 1 car 1% in Ruby Red Metallic,
The split between manual and PDK is , 57% manual and 43% PDK.
Percent with sport carbon fiber seats is 40% the majority of the cars have leather sport seats.
Only 15% have PDK and Carbon fiber seats, 25.7% have manual transmission and carbon fiber seats.
It looks like the change over time frame for German only manufactured cars may be around 6/11. But, up until that date we have cars produced at both factories?
It is still early and the data base is clearly biased by US cars, but I am hopeful that as we gather more data we will get a clearer picture of what occurred and how accepted the original estimates were.
We are working off of some big assumptions, one of which is that all Cayman R's Vin numbers were unique and sequential. I am not sure that Cayman R serial numbers are unique. I looks like they may have fallen into the regular build sequence for the Cayman. You do see a series of serial numbers in sequence that are R builds so maybe the factory pooled R orders at times and that accounts for the pooling as well as the break and range in serial numbers. If we new exactly how many Caymans(all Models) were built in the time frame that the R's were built we could solve some of the mystery.
I will continue summarize the date as we get more.
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rocket930 (12-01-2021)
09-21-2015, 12:23 AM
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Great work Rick. I believe Planet-9 has a great breakdown (less your Cayman R data) of Cayman production numbers here: http://www.planet-9.com/987-cayman-a...n-numbers.html --specifically check out posts #44 through 54.
Take a look at the MY12 figures, and I believe the Cayman S had lower production numbers than the R for that year.
Take a look at the MY12 figures, and I believe the Cayman S had lower production numbers than the R for that year.
10-13-2015, 04:58 PM
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Just took delivery of my Cayman R this weekend and drove it from Colorado Springs CO to Seattle WA. Love the car. Sad to say goodbye to my 2007 GT3 but love the Cayman R. Here is the info
1)793288
2) 09/2011
3) Carrara White
4) Manual
5) Yes
6) Issaquah WA
7) USA
1)793288
2) 09/2011
3) Carrara White
4) Manual
5) Yes
6) Issaquah WA
7) USA
10-13-2015, 07:35 PM
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Cayman R Registry
Thanks DPCGT3, I have you in the data base. We now have 139 registered. The majority are us cars. As you know there were on 462 US Cayman R's exported to the US. Enjoy your new rare toy. Will look for you around Seattle.
Rick
Rick
10-14-2015, 02:31 AM
#81
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Just finally received my 'new to me' Cayman R off the truck from Ohio to Northern CA. The following are my car's details:
1. 793330
2. 09/2011
3. Platinum Silver Metallic
4. PDK
5. Carbon fiber sport seats...Yes
6. Lincoln, CA
7. USA
1. 793330
2. 09/2011
3. Platinum Silver Metallic
4. PDK
5. Carbon fiber sport seats...Yes
6. Lincoln, CA
7. USA
10-15-2015, 12:50 AM
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1. 793460
2. 12/2011
3. Aqua Blue Metallic
4. Manual
5. No (but has them now)
6. Silverdale, WA
7. USA
Brought recently from a fellow RL member (Number 9) who was making room for a GT4. A well cared for car and loving every minute I get to drive it. Did not have GT2 seats but have installed them (thanks Mooty). Other "enhancements" planned for the winter months.
2. 12/2011
3. Aqua Blue Metallic
4. Manual
5. No (but has them now)
6. Silverdale, WA
7. USA
Brought recently from a fellow RL member (Number 9) who was making room for a GT4. A well cared for car and loving every minute I get to drive it. Did not have GT2 seats but have installed them (thanks Mooty). Other "enhancements" planned for the winter months.
11-12-2015, 05:51 AM
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Hello, it's Yoda, from Dubai
1. (CU)791133
2. have to look
3. peridot
4. Manual
5. Carbon fiber sport seats...Yes
6. Dubai (Previously Seattle, WA)
7. UAE
2. have to look
3. peridot
4. Manual
5. Carbon fiber sport seats...Yes
6. Dubai (Previously Seattle, WA)
7. UAE
11-24-2015, 09:55 AM
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rshea - Thanks for putting this registry together.
I just acquired the following Cayman R:
1. CU792070
2. 04/2011 invoice date, 05/2011 warranty date
3. Peridot Metallic
4. PDK
5. Carbon Fiber Sport Seats - Yes
6. Indianapolis, IN
7. USA
I imported the car from Canada, where it was originally delivered. My local dealer pulled the original build sheet, and among the options was listed, " 741 Press Vehicle". Makes me wonder if this was one of the first cars to be delivered to Canada. Any insight? I'm the third owner and don't know all details of its early days.
I just acquired the following Cayman R:
1. CU792070
2. 04/2011 invoice date, 05/2011 warranty date
3. Peridot Metallic
4. PDK
5. Carbon Fiber Sport Seats - Yes
6. Indianapolis, IN
7. USA
I imported the car from Canada, where it was originally delivered. My local dealer pulled the original build sheet, and among the options was listed, " 741 Press Vehicle". Makes me wonder if this was one of the first cars to be delivered to Canada. Any insight? I'm the third owner and don't know all details of its early days.
11-24-2015, 12:06 PM
#89
I wonder if it was one of the cars used at the intro event in Spain?
There are a bunch of videos online from the press that went to that event. My recollection is that it was a rainy weekend and the press commented that they couldn't push the cars very hard
There are a bunch of videos online from the press that went to that event. My recollection is that it was a rainy weekend and the press commented that they couldn't push the cars very hard
11-24-2015, 02:18 PM
#90
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CCR Registry
You are clearly an early production car and the easiest Canadian car registered in our data base. Could well have been a press car. Might be worth googleing for Canadian press back then to see what color cars they used in the new release clippings.
Thanks for supporting the registry....you have a great collectable machine!
Thanks for supporting the registry....you have a great collectable machine!
