JLJ

i have an 03' 996 and looked at the cayenne but cannot justify it even if the porsche bage is worth $10,000 extra!!
i have an acura MDX ..look at the comparison below and you will see it is an amzing truck especially the price.
if this is to hard to read go here and see your own comparison with mdx vs any car you choose
<a href="http://www.acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=mdx&bhcp=1" target="_blank">http://www.acura.com/models/model_index.asp?module=mdx&bhcp=1</a>
WITH THE TOWING PACKAGE THE ACURA WILL TOW A 3500 POUND TRAILER OR A 5000 POUND BOAT
2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Base Price MSRP $38,300 $55,900
Destination Charge $500 $745
Comparably Equipped Price $38,800 $62,330 + TBA*
Automatic Transmission Standard Standard
Residual Values 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
ALG Residual Value after 36 months 57% Not Listed
ALG Residual Value after 60 months 44% Not Listed
Warranty & Service Interval 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Basic Warranty Time (Months) 48 48
Basic Warranty Miles 50000 50000
Powertrain Warranty Time (Months) 48 48
Powertrain Warranty Miles 50000 50000
Rust Warranty Time (Months) 60 120
Rust Warranty Miles Unlimited Unlimited
Extended Service Interval Standard Standard
COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Automatic Climate Control Standard Not Available
Rear Seat Heater Ducts Standard Standard
Power Windows Standard Standard
Power Door Locks Standard Standard
Adjustable Steering Column Standard Standard
Navigation System Not Available Optional
Steering Wheel Mounted Controls Standard Standard
Air Filtration System Standard Standard
Cruise Control Standard Standard
Homelink Remote System Standard Optional
Seats 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Leather Trimmed Seats Standard Standard
Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel Standard Standard
Front Bucket Seat Standard Standard
Power Driver Seat Standard Standard
Power Passenger Seat Standard Standard
Front Power Memory Seat Standard Optional
Front Heated Seat Standard Optional
Front Adjustable Seat Height Standard Standard
Fold-Down Rear Seatback Standard Standard
Fold-Down Rear Center Armrest Standard Standard
Front Adjustable Lumbar Support Standard Not Available
Third Row Split Bench Seat Standard Not Available
Sound System 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
AM/FM Stereo Standard Standard
Cassette Standard Not Available
Compact Disc Player Standard Standard
Compact Disc Changer Standard Optional
Lighting 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Halogen Headlights Standard Not Listed
Headlight w/Auto-On/Off Standard Optional
Fog Lights Standard Standard
Cargo Area Light Standard Standard
Map Light Standard Standard
Glass & Mirrors 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Rear Window Defroster Standard Standard
Heated Mirrors Standard Not Available
Power Mirrors Standard Standard
Vanity Mirror Standard Standard
Illuminated Vanity Mirrors Standard Standard
Instrumentation 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Voice Activated Controls Not Available Not Available
Memory Adjustments Not Available Optional
Tachometer Standard Standard
Outside Temperature Gauge Standard Not Listed
Maintenance Interval Indicator Standard Standard
Remotes & Releases 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Remote Fuel Filler Door Release Standard Standard
Keyless Entry System Standard Standard
Storage 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Cargo Net Accessory Standard
Door Storage Standard Standard
Seatback Storage Standard Standard
Armrest Storage Standard Standard
Console Storage Standard Standard
Coin Box Standard Standard
Beverage Holders Standard Standard
Roof Rack Standard Optional
Sunroof/Removable Top 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Moonroof Standard Optional
PERFORMANCE & ENGINEERING 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Engine & Transmission
Engine Name 3.5L V6 4.5L V8
Cylinders 6 8
Valves 24 32
Valves Configuration SOHC DOHC
Displacement CC 3471 4511
Bore X Stroke 3.50 X 3.66 3.66 X 3.27
Compression Ratio 10.0:1 11.5:1
Horsepower 260 340
Horsepower RPM 5750 6000
Torque Ft. Lbs. 250 310
Torque RPM 3500 2500
Fuel System Multi-Port Fuel Injected Sequential Electronic Fuel Injected
Engine Location Front Front
Driveline Four Wheel Drive - Full Time Four Wheel Drive - Full Time
Transmission Speeds 5 6
Transmission Auto/Manual Automatic Automatic
Transmission Overdrive Y Y
Final Drive Ratio 4.38 4.10
Fuel Economy 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Fuel-Economy City 17 Not Listed
Fuel-Economy Highway 23 Not Listed
Combined Fuel-Economy 19 Not Listed
Steering, Braking, Traction 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Power Steering Standard Standard
Steering Rack and Pinion Rack and Pinion
Turning Diameter, Left 38.0 39.0
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) Standard Standard
Brakes (Front) Disc Disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc Disc
Limited-Slip Differential Standard Not Available
4-Wheel Drive Standard Standard
Suspension and Tires 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Suspension (Front) Independent Independent
Suspension (Rear) Independent Independent
Stabilizer Bar Standard Optional
Tires SBRP235/65R17 103T, All-Season Tires SBRP255/55R18 Tires
Alloy Wheels Standard Standard
SAFETY 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Driver Airbag Standard Standard
Passenger Airbag Standard Standard
Front Side Airbags Standard Standard
Seatbelt Adjuster Standard Standard
LATCH Upper Tethers Standard Standard
Child Proof Rear Door Locks Standard Standard
Intermittent Wipers Standard Standard
Rear Wiper Standard Standard
Head Restraints (2nd Row) Standard Standard
Head Restraints (3rd Row) Standard Not Available
Anti-theft 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Vehicle Theft-Deterrent System Standard Standard
Radio Theft-Deterrent System Standard Not Available
DIMENSIONS AND CAPACITIES 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Curb Weight, MT Not Applicable Not Applicable
Curb Weight, AT 4473 4949
Ground Clearance 8.0 8.5
Height 71.3 66.9
Length 188.5 188.2
Track (Front) 66.3 64.8
Track (Rear) 66.5 65.1
Wheelbase 106.3 112.4
Width 77.0 75.9
Capacity & Volume 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
EPA Class Special Purpose - 4WD Special Purpose - 4WD
Cargo Volume (Maximum) 82.0 62.5
Fuel Tank Capacity 19.2 Not Listed
Passenger Volume (Manufacturer) 161.5 Not Listed
Seating (Standard) 7 5

Tow Capacity (WITH TOW PACKAGE) 3500/5000 7716.0
Interior Dimensions 2003 Acura MDX Touring Package 2003 Porsche Cayenne S
Headroom (Front) 38.7 Not Listed
Headroom (2nd Row) 39.0 Not Listed
Headroom (3rd Row) 36.3 Not Applicable
Legroom (Front) 41.5 Not Listed
Legroom (2nd Row) 37.8 Not Listed
Legroom (3rd Row) 29.3 Not Applicable
Shoulder Room (Front) 61.2 Not Listed
Shoulder Room (2nd Row) 61.1 Not Listed
Shoulder Room (3rd Row) 58.6 Not Applicable

Scott & Renee in VA

You could make the same comparison of the Corvette vs 996. It's apples and oranges.

JLJ

except it is an SUV and the only way the porsche beats the MDX is in towing, speed and off roading. 99% of SUVS that are bough are to haul people and things..the MDX has more seating and storage as well as many more options for less. yes if you want 450 HP or even 340 HP its apples and oranges..

GM Austin

It's absolutely apples and oranges. I had a deposit on an MDX before it came out and then turned it down after the test drive. The MDX is absolutely a fantastic SUV on paper and there was actually nothing specific wrong with the test drive. It didn't feel as solid as I had hoped for and it didn't corner very well. I ended up buying an X-5 instead (for a lot more money).

If your just looking at it on paper the MDX will be hard to beat.

Scott & Renee in VA

Jason,

If you're just looking for an SUV, go with the MDX for sure!! If you're looking for a luxury vehicle with heart and soul and Porsche handling and brakes, go with the Cayenne. There are a LOT better values than any porsche product. But it's just not the same thing.

SurfCayenne

Hasn’t this same argument been written before? Cayenne vs. X5 4.6, vs. FX 45, vs. Sequoia, vs. Touareg, vs. Audi RS6, and now the MDX.. Heck, I could make a pretty decent debate vs. my wife’s Yukon XL Denali! (Don’t worry, I’m not)

Personally, I have been on a waiting list for the Cayenne for 8 months and have test driven most of the vehicles mentioned above trying to find a reason not to wait for the C. The fact is, they’re all are great SUVs. One can make a good argument for buying all of the above on value and most of the above on styling vs. the Cayenne (Yeah, I’m still trying to warm up to the silver plastic window trim). However, I believe that as more and more Cs are delivered and the driving reviews roll in, we’ll be talking more about apples vs. lima beans, instead of oranges…

Kevin M.

Why is when I look at the back of the MDX it look like I can see the whole transmission and axles? More like Apples to ArthiCHOKES Jason please give me a link to the Acura forum so I can tell those guys my Cayenne TT is far more superior thatn there MDX's....

vinrey

What you can't justify others can. Back to the same saying, "different strokes for different folks." Go out and enjoy your cars, they're all great cars. No one plunks down that much dough if they don't think it's worth it (to them). I've already put in 273 miles with smiles on my 24 hour old C and as I look at the other SUV's on the road today there's lots of great values out there but I'm happy with my acquisition and that's all that counts. Glad you're happy with yours as well. Happy driving.

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Dave I

Here's the link to the MDX site......

<a href="http://www.acuramdx.org/" target="_blank">web page</a>

PogueMoHone

With all the money saved on MDXs, you think some of it might make it into the membership coffers?

ANDORRA

It's not apples and oranges, it champagne and seven up,... a porsche is a porsche, style, history, race performance,....

Jim Lamb

SurfCayenne - loved the "apples to lima beans" remark. Our original family hauler was a 2002 Honda Odyssey. We considered the MDX, but thought it was overpriced for what it was: a jacked up Odyssey with a less flexible interior layout. We still have our Odyssey as a beater to take to the beach and such, but the Cayenne is a joy to drive. I'd really love to take it out on the Autobahn. It loves to go fast. We had to set the speed alarm to 90 to help me avoid taking it up in to the triple digits.

JLJ

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Colm:
<strong>With all the money saved on MDXs, you think some of it might make it into the membership coffers?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">ha ha point taken..i will do that asap..

PogueMoHone

Good on ya!

sasilverbullet

I'm confused...why do people always try and compare *any* Porsche with *any* other kind of car? In my opinion, the reasons that I like Porsche's more is because of the little things that make a difference. It's a "whole car" kinda concept. Overall, NO ONE makes a car like Porsche does..."No one even comes close"

So please quit comparing one small area and look at the big picture please!

My .02 worth...

Michael Sorbera
Soon to be a Cayenne S Driver...