Best option to massively enhance 993 engine?
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Best option to massively enhance 993 engine?
Has anyone done this and tracked it? A little background.
95 993 NA. True dual use street and Red level DE. I don't race. MCS suspension, regeared and LSD added, 70k miles.
I'm exploring options ranging from do nothing to getting a newer car, but one on the table is beefing up the 993. I'm tired of all the new hardware on the track dusting me despite what I believe is good driving.
So, what are options to safely and reliably and without having to constantly wrench/tweak it, get 4-500 HP?
I briefly considered the Protomotive Stage 1 bolt on, but nixed due to track duty. I'm researching Stage 2. But what else should I consider?
I know a great solution would be a GT3 but I need a legal back seat for my family trips.
Thanks
95 993 NA. True dual use street and Red level DE. I don't race. MCS suspension, regeared and LSD added, 70k miles.
I'm exploring options ranging from do nothing to getting a newer car, but one on the table is beefing up the 993. I'm tired of all the new hardware on the track dusting me despite what I believe is good driving.
So, what are options to safely and reliably and without having to constantly wrench/tweak it, get 4-500 HP?
I briefly considered the Protomotive Stage 1 bolt on, but nixed due to track duty. I'm researching Stage 2. But what else should I consider?
I know a great solution would be a GT3 but I need a legal back seat for my family trips.
Thanks
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Has anyone done this and tracked it? A little background.
95 993 NA. True dual use street and Red level DE. I don't race. MCS suspension, regeared and LSD added, 70k miles.
I'm exploring options ranging from do nothing to getting a newer car, but one on the table is beefing up the 993. I'm tired of all the new hardware on the track dusting me despite what I believe is good driving.
So, what are options to safely and reliably and without having to constantly wrench/tweak it, get 4-500 HP?
I briefly considered the Protomotive Stage 1 bolt on, but nixed due to track duty. I'm researching Stage 2. But what else should I consider?
I know a great solution would be a GT3 but I need a legal back seat for my family trips.
Thanks
95 993 NA. True dual use street and Red level DE. I don't race. MCS suspension, regeared and LSD added, 70k miles.
I'm exploring options ranging from do nothing to getting a newer car, but one on the table is beefing up the 993. I'm tired of all the new hardware on the track dusting me despite what I believe is good driving.
So, what are options to safely and reliably and without having to constantly wrench/tweak it, get 4-500 HP?
I briefly considered the Protomotive Stage 1 bolt on, but nixed due to track duty. I'm researching Stage 2. But what else should I consider?
I know a great solution would be a GT3 but I need a legal back seat for my family trips.
Thanks
400hp at crank will cost you $$
im hoping to get there by going to a 3.8 with RSR pistons, hot cam, RSR valves, port work, racing springs, boat tailed block, piston squirters, upgraded head studs and racing bearings.
itbs with fuel injection and coil paks with motec ecu.
it would be cheaper to go 996 turbo and gut it.
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I have a fresh set of Dougherty RS grind cams ( never installed ) , specific for a 95 3.6 that i won't be installing in my car ...
My 89 911 has a 95 3.6 in it but is being returned to street useage and i will not be installing the cams as
i prefer to thrash around a 944 SP2 car, let me know if you have an interest.
Haven't posted them for sale anywhere, just have no use for them at this time.
My 89 911 has a 95 3.6 in it but is being returned to street useage and i will not be installing the cams as
i prefer to thrash around a 944 SP2 car, let me know if you have an interest.
Haven't posted them for sale anywhere, just have no use for them at this time.
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Been chatting with Steve and the 996 is a no go as I just can't stand them visually.
Maybe give a another look.
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I went through the same decision process. Since you already re-geared, you've made the best upgrade for a 993. I also did that, with the Motons and the LSD. They are really fun cars to drive, but are relatively slow. Stay away from supercharging...they don't last.
Then I went with a 996 GT3. HUGELY (sic) faster, same visceral feel. Once you drive one, the looks become less important. You can add seats to the rear. Another option is a 997.2 Carrera. They are a lot of car for the money.
Good Luck.
Then I went with a 996 GT3. HUGELY (sic) faster, same visceral feel. Once you drive one, the looks become less important. You can add seats to the rear. Another option is a 997.2 Carrera. They are a lot of car for the money.
Good Luck.
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Sounds like you want a street car with occasional track use...
500Hp shouldn't be a problem if you have a six figure budget. 400Hp would cost you $50k. Or you could drop in a 996 Turbo motor, it bolts right on the 993 G50/20 gearbox. You would need water radiators in the front, and other modifications.
Or you can do something that makes more sense, and cost way less. The '95 engine with the plastic intake responds better to tuning than the VarioRam intake. For less than $20k, you can do a top end rebuild with 102mm LNE slip in P/C kit, 993SS cam shafts, bored out throttle body, new injectors (the old ones are only good for 300Hp), and a MoTec ECU. 9-Meister in the UK has a MoTec M84 that is pre-programmed for that exact tuning, and the engine will put out a very street friendly 340Hp. The air filter on the 993 is also used on the Turbo, and doesn't need replacement, it has more than enough capacity. A Fabspeed filter lid replacement will make the car sound better. The '95 heat exchangers/headers are also better suited for tuning than the '96 (OBDII) and later. There might be another 5HP gain on a set of Fabspeed RSR headers and X-pipe muffler, but that would be more for the sound than the HP increase. When driving the car, it's the "butt dyno" that counts. With an additional 70-ish HP increase over the original 272Hp, better throttle response, and the sound with bigger cams and equal length headers, you wouldn't miss the gap to 400 or 500 HP!
500Hp shouldn't be a problem if you have a six figure budget. 400Hp would cost you $50k. Or you could drop in a 996 Turbo motor, it bolts right on the 993 G50/20 gearbox. You would need water radiators in the front, and other modifications.
Or you can do something that makes more sense, and cost way less. The '95 engine with the plastic intake responds better to tuning than the VarioRam intake. For less than $20k, you can do a top end rebuild with 102mm LNE slip in P/C kit, 993SS cam shafts, bored out throttle body, new injectors (the old ones are only good for 300Hp), and a MoTec ECU. 9-Meister in the UK has a MoTec M84 that is pre-programmed for that exact tuning, and the engine will put out a very street friendly 340Hp. The air filter on the 993 is also used on the Turbo, and doesn't need replacement, it has more than enough capacity. A Fabspeed filter lid replacement will make the car sound better. The '95 heat exchangers/headers are also better suited for tuning than the '96 (OBDII) and later. There might be another 5HP gain on a set of Fabspeed RSR headers and X-pipe muffler, but that would be more for the sound than the HP increase. When driving the car, it's the "butt dyno" that counts. With an additional 70-ish HP increase over the original 272Hp, better throttle response, and the sound with bigger cams and equal length headers, you wouldn't miss the gap to 400 or 500 HP!
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Rothsport 3.8 build - Motec - headers / you'll need a cooler for the gearbox and pull a bunch of weight. Where the 996 and later cars have the edge is on the aero - and that's very difficult to overcome, especially on the higher speed tracks. The 993 suspension stuff is more expensive too - cheaper to go faster in the 996/997 platforms -