sfy1505

I am interested in how many have actually pulled the trigger and have a new Panamera on order? I have a 4S (Volcano Grey with Bordeaux/Black interior) on order that has an 11/03/16 freeze date and an estimated delivery arrival date of 2/03/17. It will make a nice pairing with my 2017 Targa 4S (Night Blue with Bordeaux/Black interior) that I picked up in Stuttgart in April.

fgv1it

I have one on order. 4S in Mahogany Metallic with black/chalk interior. January delivery.

ignacio

I have a Panamera 4S on order, agate grey with bordeax seats and black dash plus dark walnut wood. Supposed to arrive in Jan. I am told that no orders will be finalized until mid Nov. Anyone else hear this?

sfy1505

I haven't heard the mid-November date. My email from Porsche with "vehicle status of V200 Delivery date determined" and a commission number just said "expected freeze date of 11/3/16" and "expected dealer delivery date of 2/3/17"

gator9_911

I have a turbo on order as of this week. 11/18 freeze date with a 02/11/17 delivery stateside date.

Volcano grey. Black. Lots of goodies

AJRDU

I have a 4S on order as of yesterday. Volcano grey on black and carbon fiber. Delivery late March according to the paperwork.

MIA997TTBeast

Going to a 991 TTS until the realiability of the 17 gets taken care from f.

I'll go back to it right after the .2 release.

Shant Ohannessian

I'm also with MIA, usually .2 releases fix the bugs that come out with .1
After all, we are the testers.

MaxLTV

But a different way to look at it is .2 is outdated before it's even released. Just look at 2017 991.2 Carrera vs. the 2017 Panamera - 991.2 looks so dated in comparison - materials, electronics, design etc.

Gary JR

lol Back it up.

MaxLTV

Not sure what you mean. Just look at them. It's pretty obvious. Talking about electronics and interior specifically, most of 991.2 is the same stuff you could get in a Porsche since late 2010 with very minor improvements (Apple Carplay, higher resolution of the dash display and other insignificant things) and 2017 Panamera is entirely different.

2017 991.2:
https://www.total911.com/wp-content/...4-interior.jpg

2010 Cayenne:
http://autoguide.com.vsassets.com/ga...-Hybrid-15.jpg

Notice same dash, same central console, same UI, same buttons and levers 7 years apart - just updated steering wheel.

Now 2017 Panamera - notice how different everything is - dash, console, navi, levers:
https://www.extremetech.com/wp-conte...-2-640x453.jpg

The difference is even more stark on functionality.

Similarly with tech - for example, electric vs. hydraulic PDCC etc. It's just the way it is - .2 upgrades are rather minor compared to generational upgrades, so .2 cars feel somewhat dated even on release date.

Gary JR

Buttons are buttons while "(Apple Carplay, higher resolution of the dash display and other insignificant things)" are insignificant. OK

The biggest difference is opinion.

MaxLTV

What these buttons do is very different as well. Just spending 5 minutes with each model is enough to understand.

I'm not sure what you are trying to argue - that .2 refreshes bring same or more innovation than full generation changes? That's just not the case. And if it was the case, it would fully negate the original point about buying .2 because they have bugs worked out already. If there were as much new innovation, there would be as many new bugs.

Buying .1 new gen vs. .2 refresh is a trade-off between innovation and stability. It is actually a great approach for a manufacturer to let buyers pick what they prefer while getting more ROI out of each major update.

philipatl

Placed an order a few weeks ago..locked today! Black turbo (lots of black) with black/chalk interior. Cannot wait!

http://www.porsche.com/microsite/por...px?c=/PHBNHKL9

sfy1505

Mine completed it's build yesterday. On the way to Emden!