GT4 or 991mkII GT3
#16
Race Director
^ I think after March 7th many may do this. I have pre-sold a car once before in anticipation for another toy and the 8 months was too much to bare. Had no toy for the Spring and Summer and the money I thought I saved was not worth the agony of not having fun.
Just my $.02 but every one is motivated differently
Just my $.02 but every one is motivated differently
#17
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^ I think after March 7th many may do this. I have pre-sold a car once before in anticipation for another toy and the 8 months was too much to bare. Had no toy for the Spring and Summer and the money I thought I saved was not worth the agony of not having fun.
Just my $.02 but every one is motivated differently
Just my $.02 but every one is motivated differently
#18
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Do you have a guess at where MSRP might be? $175k?
I'm on the list for a 991.2 GT3 and will be offered an early allocation.
With that said, I'm most likely looking at a 991.1 GT3 in addition to the GT4. I think there will be as many 991.2 GT3 built as requested, without the 9k redline of the .1. The GT4 as of today is a one year run, and my car is a PTS. Hard to give that up.
With that said, I'm most likely looking at a 991.1 GT3 in addition to the GT4. I think there will be as many 991.2 GT3 built as requested, without the 9k redline of the .1. The GT4 as of today is a one year run, and my car is a PTS. Hard to give that up.
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#21
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I think the starting price should be close to $140k (hopefully less). IMO, the only necessary options are LWB's and Light Flywheel which would hopefully keep it well under $150k.
Last RS was $175k and 911R was $184k (with PCCB). No way will a standard GT3 approach those prices (last GT3 was $130k with PDK-S).
Even a 7.5% price hike (max rumored) would keep base price in the $130's...
And rumored Nurburgring time faster than 991.1 GT3 RS (with PDK-S version)...
Last RS was $175k and 911R was $184k (with PCCB). No way will a standard GT3 approach those prices (last GT3 was $130k with PDK-S).
Even a 7.5% price hike (max rumored) would keep base price in the $130's...
And rumored Nurburgring time faster than 991.1 GT3 RS (with PDK-S version)...
Last edited by GrantG; 02-15-2017 at 12:14 PM.
#22
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If it really gets to $175K or more before the nearly inevitable dealer premium, I'll just buy a .1 RS.
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"Dealer premiums aren't inevitable if people don't agree to pay them. And some dealers won't ask for a premium on principle (these dealers deserve our business)."
Never seen this beast you talk of in So CA.
Never seen this beast you talk of in So CA.
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I think there are one or two and there is no need to purchase the car from a local dealer if you can't find a fair one.
#26
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No need to rehash the whole dealer premium discussion. That dead horse was flogged a week or two ago in the GT3 forum.
#27
Instructor
I am on the list for a 991.2 GT3. I love my GT4 but I have always wanted a GT3. Can't keep both so if I get one, I will have to decide which one to keep.
No reason to make a decision yet since I haven't actually been offered a GT3
No reason to make a decision yet since I haven't actually been offered a GT3
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991 also has a multi-link rear suspension that maintains camber as it moves through its travel, while the 981's strut rear suspension has less desirable changes in geometry as it moves through its travel.
#30
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In my case, hopefully an "and" vs an "or". There is a lot to forego in the GT4, especially the brilliant mid-engine layout, but then again a visceral high revving 125hp per liter NA engine would be sublime.
I honestly cannot see Porsche continuing to make a manual NA GT3 for too long. This may very well be the last generation of such car (though I know we thought the same after seeing the 991.1 have a PDK only and felt we will never see the return of the manual). Next gen (i.e. post 991.2) is likely 4+ yrs away, and retaining both NA engine + manual may be a thing of the past...
Really excited about the 991.2, and that's the main purpose of my Geneva trip next month Will be happy to share visual content.
I honestly cannot see Porsche continuing to make a manual NA GT3 for too long. This may very well be the last generation of such car (though I know we thought the same after seeing the 991.1 have a PDK only and felt we will never see the return of the manual). Next gen (i.e. post 991.2) is likely 4+ yrs away, and retaining both NA engine + manual may be a thing of the past...
Really excited about the 991.2, and that's the main purpose of my Geneva trip next month Will be happy to share visual content.