dave885

Thanks again to everyone who provided input, insights, humor and opinions.

I couldn't wait until Geneva, even with the GTS4 RS chatter, so pretty sure my search (but not the journey) has come to an end.

I chased a few cars, but was too slow and missed out.

I veered into looking at 911 GTS's and assorted other cars (C7 Z06), but found what I think checks all (or almost all) the boxes for me: Certified with LWB's at MSRP. Not my first choice in color (which was guards red), but in my top 3.

Once I actually complete the transaction and get the car, I will post up pics (because, otherwise it didn't happen)

Thanks again for commenting.

BryanCO

Nice. Looking forward to pics and further details.

Shockwave

We live in a world where "Pix and it didn't happen" is the norm.

Looking forward to seeing pictures and details.

supercup

Chris,

Congrats - best of both worlds - track car and street car!

ExMB

Just got the new Panorama. Couldn't believe it when I read 2016 GT4, gray, 3600 miles, 18 way, PCCBs, $150k or might consider trade for 2014+ 911 Turbo.

Alan C.

I've never understood the pricing in Pano.

tstafford

That's a sweet black/black no options GT4. I can tell you from personal experience that it was treated well for it's first 3K miles including a handful of enjoyable HPDE events. Glad you are enjoying it!!

Rick-A-Shay

Had a nice discussion with a future GT4 owner who uses the following pricing yardstick: KBB & NADA pricing ($85-$95k), GT4s gathering dust at dealer (maybe overpriced?), and offers to him at MSRP but vehicles not optioned to his liking (no LWBS?).

Is this a real time valuation for "new" GT4s? I see a lot of sellers on the forum who ask a substantial price for their car in hopes of recovering the usual purchase plus expenses. Are low mileage/new GT4s really selling at close to MSRP or slightly below? What happened to $10k over? Did I miss something during my nap???

Perimeter

Dropping like a rock?

dave885

I think using third party valuation services (Edmunds, KBB, NADA) for this type of car doesn't work in part because they don't differentiate on some of the more "desirable" options and the limited number of cars available. Also not sure what people consider an appropriate time for gathering dust (also recognize that sold cars remain on the websites for longer than they're actually available).

The trickiest part since there are a limited number of GT4's for sale to choose from and you need to get the right mix of color and options (and miles) is actually finding one that checks enough boxes for you to pull the trigger which may make them not sell as quickly.

I think deals will always be available to someone who is patient and might be open to compromise on non-deal breaker options, yet will pull the trigger when they find the right one.

I didn't do a statistical analysis of it, but my observation is that many of those that are much higher than MSRP are those with significantly lower miles and those with more normal level of miles are priced closer to MSRP. Almost as if a 2016 model is already separating into "collector cars" and drivers.

I missed out on a car listed by a RL'er and it showed up at a dealer near me for $7k over his asking price.

I was able to find one for MSRP that met my requirements (it falls into the driver category). Supposedly getting on a carrier yesterday or today for the trip North.

VLJ

There are still none listed through Porsche's website for anything less than about 5% over MSRP (with the exception of a silver one in Atlanta that was in an accident) but we can't know what they sold for. The average markup from MSRP has dropped significantly over the past year, I've been watching very closely. There are more cars at an astronomical price, as well, such as ones in the $130K range which I didn't see much of before the past few months, may be due to the time of year in warmer climates. Where I live this is the prime time to sell a big ticket automobile.






My feeling is that the prices are finally starting to see a decent drop but it doesn't seem overwhelming.

Alan C.

dave885, Sounds reasonable. Congratulations on finding your car.

MXS

Surprised to see The Collection in Coral Gables, FL has two GT4s for sale and Champion in Pompano Beach has four!
Listed prices are high but plenty of choice. Becoming a buyers market?

Accel Junky

Just traded mine in on a 997.2 GT3. Always wanted one. The powerplant is much much better. Definitely how I think the GT4 should've been. Not sure on the chassis capability yet.

dave885

Car arrived today and it promptly started to snow, so it went in the garage to await better weather. So nothing other than a less than a mile trip from the pick-up spot to home for a tease.


I did take a couple pics (you can even see the snow), not the best but weather wasn't cooperating.