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Old 04-25-2016, 09:13 PM
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Its really not that complex. Just torque to 50ft lb, if you want, add a drop of blue lock-tight.

I tracked a Lotus for 8yrs =12000+ track miles and you get to understand how every nut and bolt can come louse.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:41 PM
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Can someone help me clarify which hole in the front and rear sway bars is soft and hard?
Old 07-11-2016, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yofayez
Can someone help me clarify which hole in the front and rear sway bars is soft and hard?
The closer the hole is to the end of the bar the softer it is, while the closer to the middle of the bar the stiffer.

Think of bending a long strip of metal. The further apart you hold it the easier it is to bend, while the closer towards the middle you hold it, the harder it will be to bend/flex.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:48 PM
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Think about leverage. The hole at the end of the "lever arm" is soft, the hole closest to the bar itself is hard. Anybody tried full hard on both bars?
Old 07-11-2016, 07:54 PM
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Another question on the sway bars. Quite a few very track experienced guys have told me that they also use "midway" settings on cars with adjustable sway bars. For example, on the front you can set one side of the bar at the middle hole while the other side is on the softest hole - thereby getting a "midway" setting between full soft and medium...etc etc..

Anyone tried this?
Old 07-11-2016, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by myBailey07
Another question on the sway bars. Quite a few very track experienced guys have told me that they also use "midway" settings on cars with adjustable sway bars. For example, on the front you can set one side of the bar at the middle hole while the other side is on the softest hole - thereby getting a "midway" setting between full soft and medium...etc etc..

Anyone tried this?
Yes, but not on a GT4. We call this "half a hole" as oppose to stiffen or soften one full whole per side. This works for increasing the increment of adjustment when the holes are spaced pretty close. On the GT4 the holes are kind of far apart. Even if the static preload is set to zero the dynamic loading of the bar will yield different results depending on which direction the car is turning. Basically turning one direct will load more progressive than the other direction because the drop link on each side is at a different angle. This could work well for some tracks with tri-ovals sections depending on rest of the car's setup...
Old 07-12-2016, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom-TPC Racing
On the GT4 the holes are kind of far apart. Even if the static preload is set to zero the dynamic loading of the bar will yield different results depending on which direction the car is turning.
Answered my question right there...thx
Old 10-27-2016, 10:52 PM
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I have been tracking with hard front and soft back. Just discovered that today. My car has been eating front wheels like crazy. Is this likely the culprit?
Old 10-27-2016, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Houston GT3
I have been tracking with hard front and soft back. Just discovered that today. My car has been eating front wheels like crazy. Is this likely the culprit?
front tires get beaten up regardless of sway bar setting, but your bar setup for understeer probably doesn't help
Old 10-29-2016, 07:56 AM
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Soft and soft last weekend at autocross. Mid 40s temp and Hoosier A7s with 8 events/75 heat cycles already on them. Car felt awesome from the start and even the first run felt grippy. Turn in and power out like a much warmer day. I ended up winning my class for a seasons trophy, and <.1 from fastest raw time. That belonged to a full time national level car/driver with 315s X 4 corners.
Old 10-29-2016, 11:20 AM
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soft-soft is the only combo ive never tried. didn't make the car feel sloppy?
Old 10-30-2016, 12:42 AM
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Soft front, full hard rear. But when I added the JRZ set up i had too much oversteer. I moved the rear bar to the middle. I will try this in a couple of weeks.
Old 10-30-2016, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 4carl
soft-soft is the only combo ive never tried. didn't make the car feel sloppy?
Felt pretty good to me. My times liked it too.
Old 02-20-2017, 10:41 AM
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I took a white Sharpie and wrote H-M-S directly on the bar to help prevent a brain fart. Like the attached, but these letters are photoshopped.

Old 02-20-2017, 12:13 PM
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I have gone back to middle/middle for fast work, middle/hard makes the car unstable imo at faster on the limit speeds.

better to have a dialed in geo, and for track middle/middle imo

middle /hard is a good road set up mine you on the stock geo for most people.

The rears def to hard on full hard at 100% going for it , it could do with a mid way setting.
Of course we all have our own views and some want harder rear still !! which I find odd.

I think you will find once people get a more racey geo they will go back to the rear at middle setting.


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